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Emboldened by the Trump administration’s split with Europe, Russian President Vladimir Putin may be preparing to directly test the resolve of the postwar Western military alliance.

In an interview with German business daily Handelsblatt, the chairman of European aerospace and defense group Airbus warned the continent needs to arm itself now that it’s likely the United States will not honor its obligations under NATO’s Article 5 common defense clause.

“There are strong indications that Russia is preparing an attack on NATO’s eastern flank,” René Obermann told the newspaper on Monday, adding that Putin will not likely wait until Europe has enough time to build up its own sovereign capabilities for deterrence before striking.

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Obermann argues the Russian dictator has placed his country’s economy on a wartime footing with a fiscally unsustainable 10% of gross domestic product diverted to its military, according to Obermann. That’s five times the NATO minimum target, and Putin also plans to mobilize 1.5 million soldiers—the world’s second largest standing army after China.

With so much already invested, ending his expansionist campaign and returning to peace risks the one thing Putin appears to fear most—political upheaval. That may be one reason why a joint military exercise is planned for this year in Russia’s neighboring client state of Belarus.

“That is reminiscent of the events leading up to the Ukraine invasion. Furthermore, the internal pressure [in Russia] to deliver new victories through military conquest likely will grow,” he said.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

So russia will attack EU with... Ladas? There isn't much left of the third best army in russia.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Can they, finally, so we can get this human meat grinder shit show stopped? The moment NATO can stretch it's legs this should be over in days/weeks, right?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Do you seriously believe that?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Sure do, you don't? Why isn't Russia advancing further if they are so powerful they could withstand a nato assault? With the amount of bodies spent per km2, they would need to throw another million bodies at the front line just to secure the provinces they are already claiming as theirs.

Seeing their stocks dwindle on satellite imagery makes me think they are at the brink of complete meltdown even without a direct NATO response.

What do you think it would look like if article 5 was triggered?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I will answer your questions because I’m always very interested in discussing these things in a controversial manner but first, can I play your last question back to you just to understand where you’re coming from?

How would this go down in your mind?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Finland, Sweden, and Estonia will take over St. Petersburg while Russia is busy trying to take a Baltic region that has the support of the rest of Europe? Not to mention I think Poland won't allow that shit to happen a THIRD time in about a century - they've been prepping for awhile now.

I mean, it would turn into a three pronged war where the first prong has already been struggling to even keep territory let alone gain it. Most of the pro soldiers are gone and it'll be conscripts dealing with professional armies with modern tech.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (3 children)

That won’t happen. I’m not a nuclear alarmist but the Russian military will 100% use tactical nukes before they allow a foreign military to capture one of their major cities.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

I agree but russian nukes have been historically poorly maintained and in a terrible condition. They had Ukranians maintain them who stopped for some reason in 2014. Surely some will work but in the same way they don't have the navy they claimed they have, the army they claimed they have they sure as hell don't have the nukes they claim they have.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

I think this is a correct assessment. Beating Russia back from their invasions is one thing, going after one of their major cities however is a red line where I think they will actually deploy nukes.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

And if Russia does so Germany and France might do the same.

Hence why they haven't picked any fights against NATO either.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Germany doesn’t have nuclear weapons.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Germany has american nukes stationed in germany. France has also declared that their nukes will cover nato, as well as british nukes.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Exactly, as I said. Germany has no nuclear weapons. British nukes are mounted on rockets leased from the US and can therefore not be relied on. France’s arsenal is tiny and it’s not clear to what’s left of the NATO alliance that they would risk Paris for a village in Latvia.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 month ago

France's arsenal is enough to wipe out most of Russia's population, since most of Russia is villages and nature, with most of it concentrated in the western side

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

USA being a russian puppet, Germany doesn't have nuclear weapons.

[–] [email protected] 66 points 1 month ago (2 children)

The headline should have been "Weapons manufacturer thinks everyone should buy more weapons".

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 month ago

Just because he can profit from that doesn't mean he's wrong.

[–] [email protected] 48 points 1 month ago (1 children)

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Mr. Obermann may have a business interest here, but his remarks regarding Russia's economy are absolutely valid. Putin has turned Russia into a 'war economy' with the whole country depending on war. Even Russian economists -including from the Central Bank- warn that the country will be facing difficult times if peace breaks out (which may also mean it would be difficult for Putin to stay in power as soon as the war ends and there is no enemy anymore).

So Obermann's comment that "the internal pressure [in Russia] to deliver new victories through military conquest likely will grow", is very real. Putin put his country on a war path for the long term. For example, Russia's defense minister is an economist claiming that war would be a requirement for economic growth (this is, of course, complete rubbish, but this comes from Russia's government).

I wrote a comment regarding Russia's economy in a different thread and don't want to repeat it, so here is the link if you are interested: https://slrpnk.net/post/19670037/14488418

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Chairman of arms manufacturing company says Europe should buy arms.

🤔

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)