Meh, all I remember of what the Bible says of heaven is it will be none stop worshipping of god. Like hillsong forever or something.
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In the eternal words of Bob Marley:
Some people think
Great God will come from the sky
Take away everything
And make everybody feel high
But if you know what life is worth
You will look for yours on earth
And now we see the light
We're going to stand up for our right
🥰🫶🏻
Heaven is a post-capitalism utopia
Socialism/Communism are ideologically still revolving around materialism and defining the success of the society through production and consumption.
They follow the same core pitfall as Capitalism, by seeing humans through the lens of producer and consumer.
seeing humans through the lens of producer and consumer
eh, we're long past the point of foraging for berries to survive, we kinda have to be both. interesting take though
The pope literally wrote a fucking document called "Rerum Novarum". What the hell are these people even discussing? Christians are a joke politically because they can't have their own political stance and keep inheriting liberal beliefs.
If only they could listen to Jesus first
You can read you through it all, no magic involved. Jesus is the only hero I've ever looked up to
Fundies have a more two-class system in mind for Heaven: God-King and unquestionably loyal fans.
So like Trump and MAGA. Figures
There's a very easy answer that most Christian conservatives will quickly provide - God makes all things possible. Whether in its most primitive, logic-defying form, or in the more thought-out "Humans are imperfect and thus cannot run a perfect system, unlike God", few Christians will actually be caught on the surface-level contradiction.
I don't have an issue with communism, but with communists.
I'm kind of the opposite. I have no problem with (well intentioned and rational) communists. But if we had full blown communism with Trump in charge, it would be game over for everyone.
Does that make Trump a communist if he would actually love if the US was a communist state? Maybe I actually agree with you.
Why are we censoring "communism"?
same reason people say "unalive" and "fuggen" and "child 🌽".... the Internet has become a place for self censoring idiot babies afraid of being algorithmically demonitized/banned
corporate monopolies of all popular platforms has kneecapped actual free speech by training entire generations to be afraid of violating terms of service, I guess
Oooh baby, do you know what that's worth? Ooh, Heaven is a place on Earth
There are plenty of Christians who specifically and deliberately oppose attempting to make life on earth more like heaven. They’re not being hypocrites for this, this is their belief system. To disagree with them is to wade into a theological debate, not just a political one.
Well if we turned earth into heaven, then there would be no reason for anyone to convert, duh
I think it might have something to do with those "Christians" envisioning heaven as an implicit ethnostate.
Socialism seems ugly to them because it involves the people who seem ugly to them being cared for.
But they'd never say it out-loud; most can't even see that's what their twisted little hearts desire.
I think they just lack vision and don't actually want to change the real world, just dream of a better place
The most successful nations in terms of citizen happiness use mixed-economics. Nordic nations have the blueprint. We just need to use it.
So complete justice system reform, cut the police force, strong wide reaching unions, and strong social welfare.
The absolute worst is them saying socialism is pessimistic because it thinks people can't do anything for themself and coddles them with a nanny state. Then turns around and says "you have to structure capitalism assuming every single person is a greedy sociopath hellbent on fucking over everyone else to make money."
And that the only acceptable form of socialism is charity. And like. FFS
Ancaps/libertarians as well.