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Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth denied allegations that he texted classified war plans to a Signal group chat that mistakenly included The Atlantic’s Jeffrey Goldberg.

The National Security Council confirmed the chat’s authenticity but called the inclusion of Goldberg an inadvertent mistake.

Lawmakers from both parties demanded investigations, with former CIA Director Leon Panetta warning of potential espionage violations.

Hegseth dismissed Goldberg as a "deceitful" journalist. Trump denied knowledge of the incident.

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[–] [email protected] 76 points 2 months ago

Working the playbook. Step 1: Deny

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 months ago

Having complete morons in charge does confer particular tactical advantages.

[–] [email protected] 48 points 2 months ago (1 children)

downs entire glass of whiskey "wasn't me"

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It was really the whiskey's fault when you think about it.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago

Pete blames it on his wife who he's going to beat later on. She should have told him that journalists can take screenshots.

[–] [email protected] 66 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Even if everyone in the chat had a need-to-know, you do not use insecure 3rd-party software for classified communications. Secure networks already exist for this.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Not to mention why they are using it in the first place... so they can't be FOIA'd

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Doesn't protect from FOIA, if you use your phone for official communication and it stores records, your phone can be FOIA'd.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Isn't the issue that Signal messages aren't stored on the phone and can be set to auto delete after some time? So there's no tracking of official federal business? Or am I thinking about this the wrong way?

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 2 months ago (1 children)

He's going with the Shaggy defense? "It wasn't me". I mean, it works for them. It will probably all blow over because no one is going to do anything. But this should absolutely destroy him.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

🎵Journalist caught me on Signal (It wasn't me)

He saw me schemin' on Yemen (It wasn't me)

Even list of ordinance (It wasn't me)

He even caught me on a screenshot (It wasn't me)

He saw the bombs dropping on Sanaa (It wasn't me)

Heard the words the CIA told me (It wasn't me)

Late night host laughter getting louder (It wasn't me)

Shouldn't have drunk that vodka!🎶

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

"Uh, wasn't me." -Sec Def

[–] [email protected] 37 points 2 months ago

"You're talking about a deceitful and highly discredited so-called journalist who's made a profession of peddling hoaxes time and time again...This is a guy who peddles in garbage.

Hegseth then added, "oh wait, that's me."

[–] [email protected] 96 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You dumb fuck, there are screenshots of all of it, plus your own people admitted it

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Don't forget Tuli was on the chat too, I sure do feel safe with our inept leaders.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 2 months ago

Definitely showing her whole anti war schtick was always bullshit. JD Vance was the only one pushing back in that thread, and not for the right reasons.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Prove that the sender of that message doesn't match the cryptographic fingerprint of Hegseth. If he didn't send it, then it wont match.

Signal allows you to verify all your contacts in the group chat.

This is so easy to solve. Jfc

https://support.signal.org/hc/en-us/articles/360007060632-What-is-a-safety-number-and-why-do-I-see-that-it-changed

The journalist just has to show the safety number of the person who sent it, and hegseth has to verify it with his device. They're obviously already in each others contacts, or at least are aware of each other's presence in the group chat. Its pretty hard to ignore some random journalist entering the chat since it alerts the entire group.

What makes signal great is, yes, privacy, but also the authentication of your contacts. You know you can't possibly be talking to someone else's device if you have verified their safety number.

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