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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

shakes fist THE DANES!

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

And the French way isn't rotten? Lmao

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago

It's bad, but not danish bad

[–] [email protected] 62 points 1 month ago (11 children)

For a real explanation of this watch this illuminating video.

TL;DW According to the perons, it's based on counting sheep and from base 20. 1 score = 20 sheep. 2 score = 40 sheep.
To get to 50, you have 2.5 score, but they don't say "two and a half". They are quite Germanic and say "halfway to 3" (Germans do this too). So, 50 = half three score.

The video also points out that English has (as the hodgepodge of a language it is) yet another remnant of Germanic languages: 13-19 are not "te(e)n-three to te(e)n-nine", but "three-te(e)n to nine-te(e)n", just like in German "drei-zehn bis neun-zehn".

It's quite easy to mock other languages, but there's always a reason for why things are the way they are. Think of Chesterton's fence.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I agree with your broader point about linguistics, but Chesterton's fence has never sat right with me. Consider the inverse:

This annoying and unnecessary fence is an inconvenience, but since nobody can remember what it's for, we dare not remove it

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Chesterton's fence is a warning not to commit this logical error: I don't know what this fence is for, therefore I know there is no reason for it.

It doesn't say never to remove it. It means you should try and figure out why it's there and ask around before removing it.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

It's just a logic exercise that advicates forethought when enacting change. The bigger problem is people taking parables and thought experiments as gospel, faithfully adhering to the text without considering it's intent.

More people need to read Asimov's Foundation

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I honestly don't understand what's insightful about it. It encourages a functional viewpoint that results in you inventing proposed uses for something that is a vestige of an inefficiency. Justifying something useless isn't curiosity, it's just masturbation. You should identify how a structure interacts with it's current environment. There's a reason functionalism is considered worthless in sociology.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

There's also a reason for imperial measurements, but it's still a worse system than metric.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What's your suggestion for a change to the Danish counting system? Do you think it is as obvious as going from imperial to metric?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago

Yes.

Stop being weird, Danes, literally everyone else figured it out.

It'S tHeiR gErmaN hEriTaGe

If the Frisians can figure out how not to be a bunch of weird number freaks while running around on clogs on their dikes and being half fucked up French the Danes have no excuse.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Oh yeah, one of the pics that inspired me to study French. I was dreading the numerals but it's not that bad. You count tens and twenties and sometimes they're special. And numbers below 20 have specific names, but that's kinda true in most languages.

A lot of languages have weird corner cases. (Like, in Finnish most numbers are perfectly regular. Except 11-19 which are not "one-ten-and-x" but rather "x-of-the-second". I'm sure there's a reasonable etymological reason. At least they're not "teens".)

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Four and twenty blackbirds baked in a pie...

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That still fits the pattern of "bigger number, then smaller number."

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

True. It does match the French pattern of 4x20+x.

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Norway used to count like the Germans, but switched after the introduction of the telephone. There were simply too many mistakes when telling the numbers to the operators, that a change was mandated.

Old people might still use the 2+90 variant though, but it is not very common.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

So now you're calling me old? THE NERVE!

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

French is pretty stupid too. Smart Belgium with french as national tongue only changed that number aberration: They use the made-up word "octante" for eighty and "nonante" for ninety, instead of "quatre-ving" (four-twenty) or "quatre vingt dix" (four-twenty , ten) in proper french

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

In Belgium we use nonante, not octante, that is, iirc only used in Switzerland. That means we at least don’t use quatre-vingt onze etc.

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What if I told you that all words are made up?

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