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[–] [email protected] 77 points 1 day ago (5 children)

They need to announce the formation of a new party

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Because that worked so well with the Reform party in the UK.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Well... Considering that following the election, it was the third largest party by popular vote... It worked wonders for the Reform Party.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Which means it has the third largest number of representatives, right?

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Due to political entrenchment it's more reasonable to change the DNC from within.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

They've tried and failed which is why it's not worth doing. Democratic party is part of the Nazi agenda

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Thinking like this is why you are where you are with all those nukes. Form a party. Let more parties form. Ditch MSM and CSM (Centralised Social Media) and let the people decide.

If you want to have a country without kings, you need to be prepared to have absolutely no daddy on any front, including parties and media.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago (7 children)

The ones that are in charge will not allow anyone that is a threat to their authority or power to mount any attempt to change the party.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Bernie is already 3rd party

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago

Then we need a fourth! /s

[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 day ago (3 children)

That would guarantee more Republican wins

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Keeping the dnc intact ensures that government is run by Republicans.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

How so? Republicans lost by a lot more in 2020 than dems lost by in 2024.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I'd have agreed with you pre-2025. But I could see it now. The Dems have been letting us down over and over again. We need a party that cuts out billionaire money and promises to enforce the same on all politicians once they take power.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

It could still be something like 40% third party 15% democrats and 45% republicans, unless Republicans split as well, a third party can only make the "left" weaker.

We see it in Europe in countries where the left parties refuse to create alliances for ideological reasons.

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[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 day ago (3 children)

The problem is, it is very hard to win elections without money. So a party that cuts out billionaire spending is less likely to win while also splitting the dem vote.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Democrats outraised trump and still lost.

You need to not tell your voters to fuck off if you can imagine that.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The DNC didn’t have foreign bot farms and billionaires on their side.

Elon literally bought votes but you don’t count that when you say “outraised Trump”.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

The DNC didn’t have foreign bot farms and billionaires on their side.

I know! Maybe if they abandon everyone that you don't care about and focus only on the bot farms and billionaires that you do care about, they'll win!

Democrats can't keep moving to the right like you want them to. They hit a wall. They peeled off none of the republican votes you envy. But they got to throw people you hate under the bus, so it's good for you.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Splitting the dem vote implies that Democrats are entitled to all votes, not Republican. They have never done anything to earn mine. And after lurching far to the right, like they did this last election, I can't see how anyone thinks that they have earned their vote.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Then you will get more Trump and the GOP and fascism

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Doing things your way did just that.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Dems have won the majority of elections since the 90s. Biden/Harris lost because of inflation.

Republicans lost by waaay more in 2020. If they followed your mentality they would’ve lost in 2024. Instead they doubled down and won.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Democrats did what you wanted in 2016 and 2024 and lost. But at least you didn't have to move to the left.

You prefer trump to moving to the left.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The DNC gave us Trump and fascism.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Na. That was fake leftists screeching “genicide Joe” and claiming both sides are the same.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Why are you posting irrelevant bullshit? We're not talking about running a "third party" candidate. We're talking about destroying the Democratic party and rebuilding it into something that isn't traitorous and corrupt.

it's time for the Democrats to go the way of the Whigs.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Sounds like you’re warming up for the next election when you’ll be trying to convince people not to vote or vote 3rd party.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (13 children)

Sounds like you're trying to dismiss my argument out of hand by associating me with the pro-fascist concern trolls and their useful idiots who did that in this previous election. You can fuck all the way off with that dishonest, ad-hominem bullshit.

There's a huge fucking difference between abandoning a candidate in the middle of the election with fuck-all for alternatives, and trying to reform or replace the party with literally as much margin as possible before the next election. If now is not the right time to try to get shit done, when is? Tell me that, O Great Arbiter of Political Acceptability!

You need to quit your bullshit, and on top of that you owe me a goddamn apology.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

More wins than they already won?

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