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[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Dude just wiped billions of the economy, and he still thinks he's going to be alive next year. Honestly, Russia got what they needed out of him. Just just a liability for them at this point

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Trillions. There's an article that hit my feed that shows that the NYSE and DJ indexes have lost 5 trillion dollars in value in the last 3 weeks.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago (3 children)

I'm awful with the economy, dont understand it. Can you ELI5 how Trump has done that?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Mostly with his completely volatile temperament, threatening WWIII, threatening tariffs and trying to ignite trade wars. He doesn't seem to understand that he isn't doing reality TV anymore, and the market doesn't approve.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 days ago

Chocolate rations have been increased to 20g a week.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 3 days ago

"With Sleepy Joe Biden, nobody had cardboard, it was so hard to get, terrible economy, everybody said so, even the Democrats. Now you look around this great nation of ours, under my plan, everybody has cardboard. Everybody. Look at any sidewalk, every person has a big piece of cardboard they can write on. Everybody is willing to work, it says so on the cardboard that everybody can get now."

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 days ago

You can fool some people sometime, but you can't fool all the people all the time

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago

I honestly think he's a psychopath. He's hugely narcissistic, impulsive, highly manipulative and believes whatever suits him in that moment

[–] [email protected] 40 points 3 days ago (1 children)

People are still gonna notice that they can't afford groceries.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Are they though? "Idiot Biden, sleepy Joe as they say, left us a terrible economy, terrible, this is the worst economy we've ever seen. Poor America. But I have very bright minds, the smartest minds, hard at work on it. To fix the economy, we're gonna make it all better."

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The problem with the Biden economy was that the conventional economic measures were good, but groceries still went up. Effectively, this already didn't work for Biden, even though Biden technically wasn't lying.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

It became evident how out of touch biden and then later harris were.

EDIT: extraneous "how"

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 days ago (2 children)

trumpers can blame biden all they want. You can't deny an empty belly, and if the president is saying everything is great while the evidence to the contrary is literally visceral, that's not gonna work for long. Just look at how well doing that exact thing worked out for biden and harris.

I suspect that trump will try it anyway and once it fails, he'll pick the next entry on the "then they came for" list and start blaming them.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago (5 children)

But want the economy doing good under Biden? Sure you had inflation but at a much lower scale then most of the world. I don't get why you think it was bad? Or am I missing something.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago

"You're not suffering! There are other places that have it worse!" is messaging bereft of empathy.

Better messaging would be to admit the economy sucks, making no excuses but without unnecessarily accepting blame, and put forth a vision forward. Denying the obvious is just an admission of not being up to the task.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Most people are too stupid to realize that the economy is like a massive cargo ship, it was on a course set by Trump when Biden got elected, and it took nearly 4 years for Biden to change course. Now that's just the first step. You have to then wait for the ship to get out of the storm and reach it's destination, which is where the disconnect lays. We're all still seeing the storm and feeling the rain, and the ship bobbing in huge waves, and Biden was telling us that everything was getting better. He wasn't wrong People just don't realize how long it takes to get out of the storm even after the course has been corrected.

Date Rape Donny on the other hand is steering us straight into the storm, while telling us it doesn't exist

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I am so refreshed being here. I hate Trump. But bidens magical economy was not reality, myself and many of my circle all in very high demand sectors spent longer unemployed than any other time in history. People were hungry and unable to pay bills. Who was benefitting from his economy? Only the ultra wealthy. I just don't see it. And I feel gaslit when people say bidens economy was so good. Trumps is worse of course but we haven't even reached a minimum.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Depends on how you define the economy. The economy won't be good in the eyes of the average person until there has been a huge redistribution of wealth back to lower classes.

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Trump doesnt need to manipulate much. I live in deep red country. They are upset that fox has "completely changed" and they want to go to newsmax instead.

They are soooo fucking close to getting it. But the propaganda seed has already been planted.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 days ago (2 children)

That is not the insight you think it is. Newsmax is the successor to Fox. What you're saying is they want to bury their heads even deeper into the fascist propaganda machine.

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[–] [email protected] 67 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (6 children)

For what it’s worth, you can’t tell people their paychecks are getting bigger when they aren’t. Biden presided over a “great economy” but wages stagnated and buying power decreased. Trump is going to Strangelove-ride this economy into a pit so deep it’ll be hard to convince people that everything is roses.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 days ago

And that's why trickle down is always a scam.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 days ago (2 children)

TBF Trump did exactly this in his first term when he changed the withholding to make people think their taxes went down, when in reality they ended up paying the same or more when they filed.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It'll work for a while on some people, but yeah, eventually it'll come crashing all down, especially if companies start using the fake figures into their future planning.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I'm pretty sure this is also why they want to annex Canada, Greenland, and Panama (maybe Mexico if they think they can get away with it). It's the exact same strategy the Nazis used, and I'm not invoking that lightly: when their economy was absolute dogshit, the Nazis made it look WAY better by A) going to a war footing and B) invading other countries and stealing everything that wasn't nailed down (then stealing everything else, including the nails.)

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