That's Stellantis. It's the same company that's building cards that are now showing ads when the car stops at a red light.
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I'm pretty sure VW made a declaration similar to that a few years ago.
Nothing to do with the euroNCAP guidance that came out earlier in the year, of course.
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Thank fucking god.
Does this mean VW's won't 15" touchscreen monitors plastered to the dashboard anymore? Or are they keeping that and just putting buttons under it?
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Now wait a second! Hold on! Let's get one thing straight here......
.......buttons should also return to phones.
Bring back the Blackberry.
As long as I don't have to buy it, sounds good to me. Options are good.
And maybe introduce the blueberry!
i would be willing to pay so much money to have a physical horizontal keyboard in my phone
Not sure your age, but that used to be a thing. A little slide out keyboard as a way to transition the gap between fully onscreen controls, and the old flip phones. This would have been 2003-2009 roughly.
I've never understood the cell phone market thinking. If you have 1 flip phone, it's suddenly ALL flip phones for the next 2 years. Then its a candybar style for the next 3 years. Then one phone gets wider, they all get wider. Then one gets credit card slim, they all get credit card slim. Now for the past decade it's all been black rectangles with no personality besides 1 logo on the back. Just a touchscreen, and a fuck you.
The market is filled with different customers. One wants a keyboard. One doesn't. Why can't they both find what they want in different products on the market?
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Whoever thought touchscreens were a good idea for a console needs to be shot
They are grat for things that benwfit from havibg flexible touch anywhere interaction like maps.
They suck for anything you want to touch without looking away from the road, like temp controls.
Honda still including buttons and knobs for climate controls was a huge factor for my last purchase. A few brands were instantly rejected because they had climate controls in the touch screen and I had already hated that experience from rentals and my in law's cars.
I dare say that that part of the reason behind this decision is that they are also required to meet safety standards.
They have been publicly moving in this direction for a few years. They cynical play is they pushed the new safety standards because they are ready and want to cause their competition problems as they are forced to rush buttons back (who knows, but it wouldn't surprise me)
No it's the only reason they are coming back, if they cared they wouldn't have got ridden of the buttons in the first place
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Thank you!
(Though, to be fair, I'm not sure how much they deserve to be thanked for undoing a change that should never have been made in the first place.)
Ehh, they were promised that full self driving was only a few years away. If that had been the case, touchscreens would be perfectly fine. But a decade of "only two more years, we swear" later, it's time for the manufacturers to get back to work on AM instead of FM.
Wouldn't it have been better for them to wait until cars were fully self-driving? I suspect they were just trend-chasing.
Touch screens still were not perfectly fine. At least not as they are implemented today. I have a medical condition that is eased by heated seats, I notice how long it take to get them on when I first sit down.
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Thank the lord.
It's incredible it took them this long, considering how obvious it is. But good - it's nice to see at least one thing getting less and not more shitty for once, however tiny.
Great, now unfuck the car I already have
Would be hilarious if they recalled them and superglued buttons over the touchscreen interface.
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Finally!
They decided it already couple years ago. However refresh cycles are such, that only now it starts to arrive to times where changes physically manifest. Another thing which they already said back then and kinda apologised for alas sorry, changes have to wait until next refresh or next generation of the vehicle depending on timing.
Like I guess this is official official now, but design team lead or someone like that said ages ago they would be going back to more physical buttons.
Great. Do away with the unnecessary telemetry next.
It's so weird how not a single person here can just say "cool, this is good".
Sometimes things can just be good.
Trust is earned, and automakers have done nothing but the opposite for an entire lifetime. There’s a reason everyone was so desperate for Tesla to be the little guy rebel. It didn’t work out though :(
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lol
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