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If you murdered every murderer, you should get enough points to go to The Good Place, right?

Hypothetically speaking of course. I'm obliged by lemmy.world rules to state that I do not condone murder. πŸ˜‰

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 week ago (6 children)

If you murder a murderer, you don't reduce the total number of murderers. You have to murder more than one, but then you're a serial killer, which is arguably worse. If you're a serial killer who only kills serial killers, then you are starting to maximize the offset. But once you fuck up and get close to being caught, so your serial killer girlfriend blows up Doakes to keep your secret safe and you pin all your murders on him, you've gone too far.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Yeah but how do you know the murderer you murdered wasn't just murdering other murderers like your murderering MO? You could still have a net sum of 0 murderers removed from society🫠

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

When you get to the end. You'll need a Murderer who Murders [Murders who Murders Murderers]

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Then you'll have one evil Murderer, and all other evils are gone.

Wait, Yagami Light? Is that you?

gets heart attack

"Kir...a"

dies

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

Murdering them reduces the number of murderers in the world and does not undo their murders, so it’s a win win.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Murdering murderers makes one a murderer. If one is going to ignore any context and mitigating factors, no, murdering murderers does not result in net good.

E.g., people who have killed in self defense have been tagged as murderers. Murdering them is not at all a good thing (in my moral framework, at least).

E.g. #2, murdering one person for Reasons does not necessarily mean a murderer is going to murder again. So murdering them adds to the overall murder tally without necessarily preventing any additional murders.

There has to be some element of preventing future murders, not just retribution of past murders, for this to even be a debate, IMO. And then there's the bar of simply locking them up being insufficient to prevent them murdering in the future.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago (2 children)

You would get more points if you manage to capture them and get them a fair trial that allows society to reflect on the issues that made them the way they are and maybe reduce the chance that more will appear in the future.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

no? because not every situation is black and white. I can't just kill someone because they killed another human being. they could have a lot of reasons for killing someone, killing them doesn't help anything.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Are you asking for an individual opinion or a philosophical or religious answer?

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