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European Instances
Lemmy:
Basque Country: https://lemmy.eus/
๐ง๐ช Belgium: https://0d.gs/
๐ง๐ฌ Bulgaria: https://feddit.bg/
Catalonia: https://lemmy.cat/
๐ฉ๐ฐ Denmark, including Greenland (for now): https://feddit.dk/
๐ช๐บ Europe: https://europe.pub/
๐ซ๐ท๐ง๐ช๐จ๐ญ France, Belgium, Switzerland: https://jlai.lu/
๐ฉ๐ช๐ฆ๐น๐จ๐ญ๐ฑ๐ฎ Germany, Austria, Switzerland, Lichtenstein: https://feddit.org/
๐ซ๐ฎ Finland: https://sopuli.xyz/ & https://suppo.fi/
๐ฎ๐ธ Iceland: https://feddit.is/
๐ฎ๐น Italy: https://feddit.it/
๐ฑ๐น Lithuania: https://group.lt/
๐ณ๐ฑ Netherlands: https://feddit.nl/
๐ต๐ฑ Poland: https://fedit.pl/ & https://szmer.info/
๐ต๐น Portugal: https://lemmy.pt/
๐ธ๐ฎ Slovenia: https://gregtech.eu/
๐ธ๐ช Sweden: https://feddit.nu/
๐น๐ท Turkey: https://lemmy.com.tr/
๐ฌ๐ง UK: https://feddit.uk/
Matrix:
๐ฌ๐ง UK: matrix.org & glasgow.social
๐ซ๐ท France: tendomium & imagisphe.re & hadoly.fr
๐ฉ๐ช Germany: tchncs.de, catgirl.cloud, pub.solar, yatrix.org, digitalprivacy.diy, oblak.be, nope.chat, envs.net, hot-chilli.im, synod.im & rollenspiel.chat
๐ณ๐ฑ Netherlands: bark.lgbt
๐ฆ๐น Austria: gemeinsam.jetzt & private.coffee
๐ซ๐ฎ Finland: pikaviestin.fi
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Lemmy seems interesting. Though instances, federations etc, meta stuff is confusing.
Lemmy reminds me of Reddit when I first joined more than a decade ago. I just hope it doesn't go to shit like Reddit has the last few years.
You've been on a roll with these lately. Keep em coming! :)
Shame it doesn't remove Russian trolls, though.
You cannot protect yourself from that without making substantial sacrifices.
Is somebody gonna post this over on reddit?
To the account:
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It can be bought by a billionaire. I think we need to be careful thinking this risk doesnโt exist.
โWe can just make another instanceโ - this wonโt happen like people think it will. If all the content is on Lemmy.world and it gets bought, then people are going to be hesitant to move somewhere else, just like people are hesitant to leave Reddit now.
If all the content is on Lemmy.world
Another reason to spread the content across instances
I have blocked content from lemmy.world altogether and have so much fun. Go try it, leave the bubble.
Instances can be bought by billionaires. The software can't. And I don't think many billionaires would buy a website running a software that they cant control tbh
The software can, but the price is likely too high. In the end money can pressure anyone to do virtually anything. Having 100 lifetimes of productive work pressuring you to do something cannot just be ignored.
Even if people running instances are saints, a lot of money can not only buy, but bully them into submission. Bullshit lawsuits is one way to do so before they are financially crippled. We are safeguarded only by our irrelevance.
โWe are safeguarded only by our irrelevanceโ itโs not just Lemmy. Iโm thinking about the trans movement that progressed quietly without fanfare and the moment it was no longer โirrelevant โ for the majority it started getting massive pushback. Shocking how little it took to go from irrelevant to a danger to society.
Why won't it? I think user accounts need federation as well, but switching hosts isn't hard. Lemmy.ca went down a little while ago due to a power supply breaking. The admin has been great about it, moving away from the provider that took a day to fix the issue. But during the downtime I was able to use an account I has already set up on a different instance.
When reddit is down, it was really down. When a lemmy instance is down you can just use another. Don't get tied into just one host.
Itโs easy to say โdonโt get tied downโ, but people do. People like their online personas, their handles, their comment and post history. Itโs a mixture of sunk-cost fallacy and FOMO. Reddit knows this, itโs why they still have 2000x as many monthly users as Lemmy.
This will be the same here: if a billionaire buys the biggest instance, yeah cool everyone can defederate, but then all the historical content is gone, most of the users are gone unless they move to you or an instance still federated to you, and you essentially alienate yourself.
That's why mastodon pushed for account migration features. They made a bunch of them.
There is also bluesky that made their own protocol to handle identities diffretly than ActivityPub.
There is just not enough devs to code that stuff in Lemmy.
should def strive for it for lemmy aswell.
canโt find much info on the subject on github for it unfortunate
Lol, I feel like I've heard those words before.
If there's a market, the billionaires will come. And wherever there's people, there's a market.
Which billionaire owns email?
Email? I don't even know how many addresses are owned by Google.
I'm just saying, The internet may still have a small piece of "nomansland" left, but it's shrinking by the second.
Microsoft owns Outlook. A lot of people use their iCloud email address. ISP emails.
People here have been moving to Infomaniak, Posteo, mailbox.org, Proton, Tuta
Email is still open and free to use. That's what I mean when I say Lemmy cannot be bought.
Email by design does not send everyone's email to everyone else's server. It's not a good comparison.
Remember Usenet? Pepperidge Farms remembers.
You're missing their point.
No, I'm not. It's a terrible "point".
Email is a technology, yes. ActivityPub is also a technology. Correct, nobody "owns" either. That's where the similarity ends though. If SatanCorp comes along and sets up their own instance, they get everything everyone posts. Every message they send. Instances can defederate, yes, which requires SatanCorp to spend another 10 dollars on a host name. I don't think people understand how trust based and fragile ActivityPub and Lemmy are, or how little privacy there is in any of what you do here, from good actors or bad.
https://gui.fediseer.com/ already allows instances to establish trust with each other.
If a scenario like yours happens, admins would probably switch to an allow list model where new instances need to demonstrate trust
Every message they send.
They can already scrap all the content.
For now...
Also, no Spez
Fuck u/spez
It also works with Mbin and Piefed ๐ช
And mastodon to certain extents
Anyone know if the integration documented somewhere?
You're looking for ActivityPub
No, I meant the layer on top that lets me interface between the two platforms. On Mastodon it's done through mentions, which isn't well documented and is a bit cumbersome to use. I made a post of an article I found that explains it.
stupid question, but anyway: does it have admins? so is Lemmy less censored than Reddit?
Lemmy has admins in the way that email providers do.
Another example: my instance blocks porn. Those who agree with this policy may enjoy this instance, but it doesnโt impose its rules on anyone using other instances who can access that content freely.
Itโs kind of like email. They are all connected, but the rules are set by your provider and those who are willing to communicate with you. There is no one person who can set the rules for everyone.
Every instance has an admin. They are listed at the bottom of the sidebar of the instance.
The good thing is that every team of admins can manage their instance and the communities hosted as they want.
So if an admin wants to censor a certain topic on their instance, people will just move the community to another instance that would accept it.
A good example if [email protected], which cannot be accessed from lemmy.world.
The piracy is specifically why I moved to db0. I'm not even a pirate anymore but the information should be visible and easily accessible.
how cool, i like lemmy more and more. thx
Happy to help, feel free if you have any more question
And can be accessed from Fedia.io. I don't know where the nazis fucked off to, good riddance, sez I.