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Thunderbird "won't be adopting the firefox terms of use" (mastodon.online)

submitted 1 week ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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[+] [email protected] -9 points 1 week ago (2 children)

No one uses Thunderbird anymore anyways, which doesn't matter as the ToS changes to Firefox are a nothing burger and won't dissuade millions of people using it daily despite what the neck beards on Lemmy would have you believe.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

No one uses Thunderbird anymore

You pulled this out of your ass?

Thunderbird currently has millions of users.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Thunderbird actually had a big resurgence a little while back, I use it as my mobile client 🤷‍♂️ If I understand correctly it's not actually a directly Mozilla project anymore.

Personally I'm less bothered by the terms of use changes specifically than the bigger picture of mozilla consistently making choices that confuse or raise eyebrows with their core audience, letting their browser languish from a technical standpoint, and making confusing business choices that don't seem to help their financial future at all while paying executives huge salaries

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

I use it as my mobile client 🤷‍♂️

Same here and I'm glad you posted this info

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago

I mean, for now...

If terms of use aren't regulated in any way apparently companies can change them whenever they fucking want to.

They can say this today and then a month from now completely backtrack just like Mozilla did....

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago (4 children)

This whole thing is concerning. Are there other real alternatives to FF or Chromium?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

Creating a browser from scratch is a monumental task, ladybird is such a project which has been in progress since ~2022, and will probably take another couple before it's at beta. Optimistic release is 2028, or ~6 years of development.

I've moved to schizofox (NixOS) but there are plenty of other forks available which remove telemetry and other default behaviours from Firefox.

Chromium forks are another alternative however due to chromiums dominance in the browser space I'm reluctant to shoutout any forks.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

I finally switched from Firefox to librewolf, which is a privacy focused fork of it. It’s basically Firefox with some of the iffy stuff ripped out, and with good default settings.

Firefox with proper settings is probably “fine” still, but the transition is super easy since it’s basically the same thing.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

Forks.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

Only other alternatives I know are either Safari if you're on an apple device or something like Links/Links2/Lynx if you don't mind text based browsers. Neither are convenient for their own reasons, but it's not like we have any other choices. At least not that I'm aware of.

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