Will the rare earth they send us be in a bucket? Like a paint bucket? Or even more rare like in a small envelope? Will it also be strange? Rare and strange? Or rare and weird? So many chooses!
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If US can't guarantee, then sell the raw earth to the EU instead or china, india.
Of course not. That would be against Putins commands.
The thing confusing me most is why Ukraine would trust any US' "guarantee", when they've been nothing but untrustworthy.
And people's lives are not toys. I get the sentiment behind wanting less people to die. But Trump and Putin do think people's lives are toys, so I can't imagine the outcome of this being beneficial in any way to Ukraine.
Or maybe they play along hoping the next US election cycle allows them to join NATO.
Ukraine is going to renuclearize
No, it’s not.
Right. Germany, Poland, Italy and Ukraine are. And the EU is going to federalise
The EU is more likely to dissolve than to federalize.
I though trump was going to pull the US out of Nato?
I guess by staying in they can derail it being useful to anybody else, veto new members, etc.
Yeah, I wonder if they could kick the US out.
Seems like the US has no leverage if we're not offering anything.
Ukraine wouldn’t last long with US support.
The leverage is whatever they expect to happen if they are left to Russian interests
"Art of the Deal"
Hey France, you wanna dominate europe and soon also the world again? Comon who than to do it better than with your old pal germany. This time we are the good guys. Democracy, security, peace and justice! - germany
France is still colonizing Africa.
No worries, Macron has been working very hard to put an end to Françafrique and it is already mostly over :)
Well, not necessarily encrypted messaging security, https://www.intelligenceonline.com/government-intelligence/2025/01/30/france-makes-new-push-for-backdoors-into-encrypted-messaging-apps,110369896-art
That being said, yes, a stronger EU is better for the whole world. I hate that Trump is becoming the impetus for that.
Trump and Pooting. Helping the EU grow larger and breaking their chains of Dependance
Did anyone expect anything else from Krasnov?
So why should anyone listen to what the US says anyway?
What nations should they listen to instead?
Their own mostly. Countries don't have country buddies.
As for NATO membership in particular, all NATO members need to accept new members...
But the EU has a similar clause to help with military invasions, so the US support isn't strictly needed for security.
NATO will not see any new members again.
the Alliance is more or less defunct as there are trojan horses in it like Hungary, and America's refusal to honor Article 5 is an open secret now.
the Alliance is more or less defunct as there are trojan horses in it like ~~Hungary~~ America
And there is no provision to remove a ~~more~~ member from NATO.
You can remove a member by all leaving and forming NATO 2 and not accepting the member they wanted to remove.
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NATOO
The US has already devalued being a member of NATO.
Zelenskyy would probably get more support from his people if he told trump to get fucked than by being his dancing monkey. I know he's desperately trying to do what's best for Ukraine, but sucking up to that piece of shit isn't it.
Zelenskyy would probably get more support from his people if he told trump to get fucked
Oh how I wish this was true but a lot of Ukrainians are so weary they really just want the war to end and are frustrated with Zelensky. Believe me not everyone has the moral high ground or integrity, many, many just want him to make any kind of deal, no matter how big the insult and humiliation are.
("Moral high ground" and "integrity" are very heavy words in this context. Right now, after just watching the argument, I am a bit speechless and can't find better words. But please know that I do not want to refer to these people as having no integrity, morals, ideals, etc. They are desperate and have lost so much I can't even put it in words.)
That's a good point and thanks for the perspective. Of course I don't know what it's like for anyone in Ukraine at the moment, and I can understand the desperation. But trump is a thug, and a wannabe gangster. He will burn all of Ukraine if he thinks it will benefit him. His word is worthless, and so is any deal with the US. Every world leader knows that, it's just so frustrating that none will stand up and say it, they just keep treating him like a legitimate president when he's so clearly not.
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