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It seems like I constantly see "X secure messaging option is actually bullshit because it was purchased by Dr. Evil and Y is actually just e-mailing your messages directly to Xi Jinping."

Is there an authoritatively "best" one I can just...download and setup easily? Is Signal good? Or do I need to solder a Raspberry Pi to the flux modulator of my home Linux NAS GUI, etc...?

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (3 children)

For everyone suggesting signal, have a read here and then decide for yourself.

https://github.com/signalapp/Signal-Android/issues/8974

ETA: when I say "decide for yourself" I mean exactly that. I don't think all the stuff written in there is true, but some is. You should make a decision based on what you think about those comments, not trust them blindly. But at least you can make an informed decision.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I use signal but if I could convince everyone I knew to use a messenger for security it would be Threema. No chance of that happening it's hard enough convincing people to use signal.

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[–] [email protected] 69 points 3 days ago

Signal is actually good. More people should be using it.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (10 children)

My understanding is that Briar is ethically the best, but no one uses it. Signal is the best if you actually want to use it to communicate. Telegram is where the pirates and drugs are.

Here's the long version: when a dev is making a messaging app, they eventually have to make a choice: do I integrate SMS/MMS? If they want to make this app a daily driver messaging platform to help you ungoogle your android phone, they have to integrate SMS/MMS, which has security vulnerabilities and limits how secure they can make their app. More importantly, people do not tolerate ads on their messaging app, so they flat-out cannot monetize it without losing their entire userbase. If they don't integrate SMS/MMS, they are creating a closed ecosystem, and a closed ecosystem can be profitable. If leadership changes, the new leaders might decide to turn their users into either cutomers or products.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Telegram is not a secure messaging app.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Signal is known as the gold standard right now but there are new ones popping up all the time. SimpleX chat is good too (despite the "Nazi-haven" smears).

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago (5 children)

You say it’s a “smear” but is it based in truth?

[–] [email protected] 27 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I'm certain that any worthwhile encrypted communication will be used by evil people to do evil.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 3 days ago (3 children)

That doesn’t really answer the question lol

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 days ago

Signal works the best for me, and I think its the best option out there for common people who wants the best privacy

[–] [email protected] 53 points 3 days ago (1 children)

There is no best, each has their merits and drawbacks.

If you were to pick a messaging app I would go with Singal because they give good transparency to users, while giving frustrations to governments wanting data.

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