The majority aren’t at the point where they are willing to sacrifice everything yet. They have families, homes, food, friends. Currently the administration hasn’t taken away enough from enough people to get it really going. It will be coming though. People just haven’t felt the affects yet
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There’s plenty that are mad.
Just that the minority that are happy about it and the billionaires that own all forms of media keep sweeping that fact under the rug. Or they put a question mark at the end of it. Are Americans all that upset about trump? How much damage is trump really doing? And then they softball the response to questions like that with “who really knows what the damage will be? when it’s objective what the results are and the future holds.
The majority of people votes for this that is why. The no voters just wanted a clean conscious but they still voted for this.
I'm pissed off. I don't know what I'm supposed to do about it. If there's a protest near me I'll join it. If I see somebody getting fucked with by a Nazi I'll step in but I have responsibilities and a job and can't really afford to travel. So until shit really kicks off I'm kind of stuck in this state where I can't do anything.
Republicans have majority control over the media. They don't know what's happening because their news doesn't cover it.
I’m infuriated! It’s like the US has lost their collective minds. But what’s the point in doing anything? This is what the voting populace of the US wants.
Gaslighting?
Everyone is mad and everyone can't agree why were mad so now were more mad.
Nothing? We're furious. We just can't do much to stop it.
Americans ARE mad, but the moderates and liberals have been on a decades-long crusade against gun ownership and now they dont know what to do because they aren't armed, and when you tell them to arm up and march they start whining sone bullshit about MLK and Ghandi even though one was shot and the other never did anything of use.
9/11 happened because they'd been told all their life to stay in their seats and let authorities handle hijackings. Despite all the chest-pounding and fist-pumping, Americans are weak, lily-livered pussy-assed losers and will absolutely be destroyed by inaction exactly like Biden's legacy will be.
Now watch as some snide little pencilneck will respond with some "you first, chief!" shitbaggerie. It has happened every other time I said this...
And, if you think we could fight and win against the US govt and all of its current supporters, you are grossly mistaken.
I think we're just on a down wave globally. In early 00s we got social media which helped to organize people and lead to real actionable ideas. The bad actors figured it out and took control of our tools and now people are waiting for a new opportunity.
I think Americans need a strong leader and something to break the camel's back. Everyone's who's angry now doesn't have a good "deal" for risking exposure and their complacency because the failures are just too recent.
"Wanting a strong leader" is what gave us trump. You be a leader or allow yourself to be led by people in your local community. There is no perfect leader that could ever check everyone's boxes. If there was one thing we could all agree on I'd like to know what it fucking is.
trump isn't a strong leader, he's a very accomplished con artist.
He allows people to project their vision of who he is on him.
You say I'm christian? Sure I'll pretend I am
You say I'm anti abortion? Sure I'll pretend that I am
You say I'm for the little guy? Sure, I'll pretend that I care about them
You say I'm anti-vax? Sure, I'll tell you that I am
You say I'm the second coming of Christ? Okay, I'm good with you thinking that about me
You say I'm a strong patriot? Sure, I'll hug the flag and say the words you need me to say
He is everything to everyone of his supporters because he never tells them that they are wrong about who he is.
A strong leader is someone that has strong convictions and articulates them in a way that resonates with the population. They are not people that waffle in their ideals, you either like their stance or you don't. Smart ones will adjust their ideas over time but they do this from a strong ideological foundation. Some are genuinely good people like MLK, jr. others are more despotic. What America needs is one or two genuinely good strong leaders.
I don't think so. America will never settle on one or two people to be their leader. They need you to be a leader or they need you to give your support to someone else who is decent enough leader to represent you. What you want is a magic bullet. Some one else to solve all your problems all at once. It doesn't exist. Americans are notorious in their purity tests and infighting. When what all the American people need to do is compromise then there is no leader that can convince them to compromise for himself.
Random question but are any Americans being more careless with loans? It kind of seems like the US is on a crash course with an iceberg and I admit I'd feel a bit more at ease with debt in that situation than normally
Try all your typical college grads.
I'm not even American and I'm mad. Most of what I've heard from Americans is that they're mad.
Same. I'm so mad and disappointed in America, but I can't let that override my compassion for its people. This whole thing is so frustrating to watch. Look at how the French do it, Americans! It's time to break some shit.
You have compassion for us Americans, and that’s nice, but bear in mind we voted for this. As much as the people who voted for Trump may have done so out of desperation, we still made a catastrophically stupid decision. Trump isn’t the problem, he’s a symptom. The problem lies in the American people. We have been squashed by both our government and our corporations. We need a wake-up call, and if that means we need to suffer from our own choices then so be it. Maybe we haven’t suffered enough yet. If we’re so dumb that we vote for a malignant narcissist like Donald Trump, maybe we need to be squashed a bit more. We have the power to take back our country, we just need the will to do it. Maybe that comes from more hardship and regret. Maybe that comes from more suffering.
But maybe not. Maybe I’m wrong. I’m so disappointed with my own countrymen right now, maybe I’m not seeing things clearly. I don’t know. But I know we deserve what we voted for. The world doesn’t, and that’s a tragedy, but maybe America needs to take a hit and the world needs to rely less on us for both America and the world to be better. Again, I don’t know.
we voted for this
Did we? There are some suspicions of voter fraud in some swing states and it sure as hell isn't below musk to attempt something like that.
Yet, I think that the past MAGA crazies screaming about "election fraud" and "stop the steal" has poisoned the well for legitimate future calls for investigating potential fraud in elections. On top of that it also makes people that question the results sound like the crazies of the past.
It could explain why trump is allowing so much power to musk.
</Tinfoil hat>
Source: I have no source. It's all feels over reals and a partial lack of acceptance that so many American people are that dumb.
We can't just claim that an undesirable outcome is the likely really of election fraud... I do wish the result was different but sewing a rumor that has no credible basis in reality serves minimal value.
Everyone I talk to is mad, my family is a bunch of Tumpers and beloeve everything he says.
What makes you think we are not mad?
You just don't seem mad. Maybe upset but like you'll get over it in like 4 years or what ever.
I’m optimistic that in four years we’ll have an opportunity to start rebuilding. I can only hope our friends abroad have patience while we go through our meltdown, that somehow there’s enough economic inertia to control acceleration of climate change, and that most of us can keep our heads above water.
Then again, I’m trying to figure out how to tell my son we can’t afford his first choice college because of financial aid changes made by republicans during trumps first term, taking effect now. Sacrificing the future is getting personal
i think they are. they just been propagandized so hard with anticommunism that they are at a loss of what to do. thats not even just the us.
everyone I know is mad. disgusted. ashamed of our country and it's election systems that allow this incompetent clown show to destroy our democracy.
meanwhile joe joe could have had the cia murder trump et al, and probably gotten away with it considering the supreme court's bullshit.
strange thing to wish had happened.
I'm not American, but from what I can see, its mostly:
- Apathy
- Not being clued in
- Beliving nothing can be done
and #4: we dont believe if we take a bold step forward that our neighbors will show solidarity and endurance, which then puts us at risk of prosecution. A lot of us have kids to protect.
Beliving nothing can be done
This one in particular has been so corrosive. I believe if people believed in their vote, something would change. But the electoral college does more harm than good by diluting the vote. Couple that with gerrymandering to completely erode people's trust in the system.
Not being clued in is a serious problem here. A lot of people dont take in any form of news whatsoever
The last one is insistent. Probably because there is a lot of truth to it but it's also obviously flawed and deserves more nuance.
It feels like there is little that can be done individually, but collectively everyone can do a lot.
The USA is a big nation. Lots of people from very diverse backgrounds. Coming together for a common cause isn't something that happens everyday.
Especially since 2 Americans with multiple generations of American ancestry can have drastically different historical experiences.