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[–] ninjabard@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Even my "It was about states' rights" History teacher didn't have a Confederate flag. So, get bent Utah.

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[–] Steve@communick.news 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The pride movement should adopt the Swastika and Nazi flag.
Symbols are given meaning and power by those who use them.

[–] kipo@lemm.ee 14 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I think I speak for the entire community when I say we are not going to do that.

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[–] peregrin5@lemm.ee 6 points 3 weeks ago

Cascadia Now!

[–] Anissem@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 weeks ago

Well it is Utah… it’s basically handmaids tale there

[–] CubitOom@infosec.pub 25 points 3 weeks ago

The only reason to have a nazi flag in a school curriculum, is to learn how to tear it down and rip it in two.

https://infosec.pub/post/22663267

[–] RobotToaster@mander.xyz 12 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (5 children)

Headline is kind of clickbait

The bill also allows for the flying of a “historic version of a flag ... that is temporarily displayed for educational purposes,”

“There are instances where in classrooms, you have curriculum that is needed to use flags such as World War II, Civil War,” he said. “You may have a Nazi flag. You may have a Confederate flag, and so you are allowed to display those flags… as part of the curriculum, and that is okay.”

The law is still dumb for wanting to ban the pride flag.

[–] dantheclamman@lemmy.world 16 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

I had a teacher put a Confederate flag in our classroom 'for history'. She also spent the entire weeks-long Civil War module drilling into our young minds that the war was about States' rights, not slavery.

[–] RobotToaster@mander.xyz 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm pretty sure the flag was the least of the problems here.

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[–] Placebonickname@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago

This was a popular thing when I was young, and yes there was a debate over what state laws/federal laws wanted, but Kansas has a very interesting history - were runaway slaves left Missouri and headed into Lawrence and people of Missouri took the law into their own hands to hunt down fugitive- runaway slaves, sometimes because they just wanted the bounty or the reward.

In one incident, the sheriff from a city in Missouri was shot at and as a response people from Missouri Road into Lawrence and burnt down most of the big buildings and killed a couple of people and stole several horses. This was known as the border war and it occurred far before 1861. It was all about racism, hatred, and money, and it had absolutely nothing to do with state rights 

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[–] Placebonickname@lemmy.world 27 points 3 weeks ago

I would just show the kids a picture of the flag in the book and if they don’t understand why some Americans are objecting to the flying of a Nazi flag. Maybe they should read the damn book. 

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[–] Nougat@fedia.io 225 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

“There are instances where in classrooms, you have curriculum that is needed to use flags such as World War II, Civil War,” he said. “You may have a Nazi flag. You may have a Confederate flag, and so you are allowed to display those flags… as part of the curriculum, and that is okay.”

There are no such instances. Students are fully capable of learning about the Confederacy and the Nazis without those actual flags being present in the classroom. They know this, so there must be some other reason they're pushing this bill.

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 44 points 3 weeks ago (8 children)

They're also admitting that they don't teach anything about LGBTQ+ at all in any realm. Not health class, civics, history, art, nothing.

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[–] DrSteveBrule@mander.xyz 4 points 3 weeks ago

I'm not disagreeing with you, just wanted to share that my mom's high school year book from the early 90s has a picture of one of her teachers dressed like a nazi performing a sieg heil, all for display as a part of the curriculum. She said no one batted an eye or voiced concern for it back then. I truly hope we don't see things like that return to classrooms today, but it wasn't that long ago that it was normal either. I would assume a lot of the people pushing this bill might have experienced something similar.

[–] Hayduke@lemmy.world 19 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

"You may have a Nazi flag. You may have a confederate flag... "

I mean, hey, who doesn't for just such an occasion?

[–] glimse@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago

It's so funny when they call themselves out. Are you saying those two flags have something in common, Trever?

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[–] samus12345@lemm.ee 130 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

I dunno, man, I didn't understand the Holocaust at all until my teacher starved some students to death and tossed them in an oven.

[–] big_slap@lemmy.world 46 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

if this were to actually happen, I'm positive some people still wouldn't get it

[–] garbagebagel@lemmy.world 16 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

They'd just do what they've been trained to do since 2016. "Fake news! Fake news!"

[–] big_slap@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

how do we combat ignorance in our personal lives? I am looking for suggestions

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[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 25 points 3 weeks ago

That's because love and compassion for others is obviously evil.
While hatred and oppression of minorities is good and righteous.

But of course you have to be an idiot to understand that, so you probably don't.

[–] LogicalDrivel@sopuli.xyz 94 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Yeah, ok. So not even pretending to hide it anymore. I fucking hate this country.

[–] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 21 points 3 weeks ago

Why would they hide it? The more they flaunt, the more their base is emboldened. Turns out people fucking love evil.

[–] RmDebArc_5@sh.itjust.works 62 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Do they also salute the flag with a musk salute?

[–] foggy@lemmy.world 23 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I think calling it a Musk Salute might actually be a great idea if the media is so unwilling to call it a Nazi Seig Heil.

Call it a Musk Salute to the Nazi flag.

[–] RmDebArc_5@sh.itjust.works 10 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

It also makes a lot of sense because in German the salute is called “Hitlergruß” (which literally translates to Hitler salute), because the accompanying words were mostly “Heil Hitler” and not “Sieg Heil” (which also was used, but less common), so you were saluting Hitler. So when Musk does it is in fact a “Sieg Heil”, but when somebody else salutes the American flag it is a Musk salute because you are saluting Musk, the Führer of the USA

[–] not_that_guy05@lemmy.world 21 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 24 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Racism, bigotry, and polygamy.

[–] Placebonickname@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Not alot of Jazz music though…as the NBA team would suggest

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[–] BigMacHole@lemm.ee 20 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

That's because Republicans are NOT Nazis!

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[–] HikingVet@lemmy.ca 16 points 3 weeks ago
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