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As of revision version #85, OpenStreetMap has the following tags for Golfo de México:

  • name:en Gulf of Mexico
  • official_name:en-US Gulf of America
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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

Golfo de México is just as annoying, well done.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 week ago (3 children)

It is the gulf of mexico. The whole thing is just president musk and vp trump power tripping. Also a distraction from other, much worse thjngs happening right now.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Idk if this is true, but someone brought up it might be related to Biden putting in an order to not allow new drilling in the gulf of Mexico, so to get around it Trump and Co Just renamed it.

Again, no idea if this is true, haven't had a chance to look it up since I heard it an hour ago or so, but it sounds plausible lol

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Yeah but couldn't he just resend the law. I can't see why renaming it would be required, also if that's true, what a stupid loophole.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That's what my dog does.

He tears into the couch in one side of the house to get you annoyed, then runs to eat cat litter, then runs upstairs to take the kid's toys.

Do enough chaos to get something and tire us out.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

OMG, we have to see pics of this cute criminal!

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Personally I'd prefer it if they spent all four years renaming things to Mount Hitler or whatever instead of doing anything actual.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

If it was left up to Trump he probably would. I don't think he's entirely sane at this point, unfortunately there are plenty of people manipulating things behind the scenes and they do have plans.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It’s calles the Gulf of Mexico, people should stop using different names in different languages and use the actual name.

Like The Netherlands is called The Netherlands and two of it’s provinces are called Holland

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

it's a tricky question, arguably there are more people on this planet that call countries by their Mandarin name, followed by their Spanish name, followed by their English name, than the name in the native language.

De Guo > Alemania > Germany > Deutschland for example

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

Which is why I'll never call Turkey "Türkiye", though they're free to call themselves that. I don't see Germany insisting I call it Deutschland, after all.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Such a weird thing for everyone to fixate on and lose their shit. Let our dumbass en-US selves do whatever "official" dumbass thing we have to with the name.

Everyone else can leave it what it always was.

Next time there's a Democrat U.S. President, the "en-US" term will be changed back to Gulf of Mexico.

This is stupid.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago

It's true and it's such a distraction. There is so much worse shit going on right now in the US government. I'm tired of not calling it a coup. It's a coup. They're trying to act like the judicial branch doesn't get to determine what is and isn't constitutional. So much shit.

As bad and as cringe as it is for the "Gulf of America" debacle to happen, it's just genuinely not worth the headspace right now.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

You’re right. It’s part of a propaganda strategy to trick US media to “discuss” trivial things like this instead of focusing on the real harm the administration is doing.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 week ago

@zlatiah Best comment in this thread: " Can we retag Trump’s golf courses as Golf of Mexico? " 🤣

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I'm going to be looking for ways to make the name even more Mexican now. Maybe just perfect my Spanish at least for that one phrase. Gwalfo de Meh-hee-co

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Why is this even being discussed?

Are they discussing renaming Taiwan to China as well?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The name itself can't really change in OSM because it's based on what someone "on the ground" would see, i.e. street signs, etc.

Previous OSM naming conflicts have usually been areas of disputed land where some group de-facto controls the land/people and therefore the street signs, and therefore the OSM 'name' tag.

That's not going to work very well for a big region of mostly international waters between several countries.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Taiwan is the island, also known as Formosa, and it is ruled by the Republic of China. Separately, but still part of that state, there's the autonomous mainland provinces, calling themselves the People's Republic of China, a rebel faction which somehow steadfastly refuses to declare independence.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Looking at it this way, I'd call the "mainland" part West Taiwan

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Nah West Taiwan is the western half of Taiwan. It's an island, not a state, just as Denmark is not Jutland, or Spain, or Portugal (fight!) Iberia.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

You're getting downvoted but you ain't wrong.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

Are you taking about Formosa or the Republic of China?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

One way a global index can respect local authority would be for the index to acknowledge that within that territory, there is an official name for things.

They can also be pragmatic and acknowledge a common local name, the global consensus name, etc.

In many ways, it's just a further fragmentation like language.

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