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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago

Every time I see articles like this, I think:

This was easily avoidable.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 day ago

Arent you glad you voted for an old dementia-ridden fart who refused to defend the country from these people?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago

You think being white and middle class will save you? Bullshit. We're all on the menu.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I'd like to point out a few things in this legal logic bomb here. I'm not a lawyer either but...

  • The administration declared being illegal a crime even though it is a civil matter so they can create this illegal loophole.
  • The article states that that removal of citizenship for criminal charges would allow trial by jury.
  • The current administration is making denaturalization go through civil court to strip defendants of any right to a trial by jury or lawyers if they can't afford one.

However, if all defendants tried in civil court solely on the charge of being here illegally, then they are not a criminal for being illegal by their own definition because they are in civil court. Even if they are being busted for a crime other than being illegal, they still have to go through the criminal court process for denaturalization which is by a trial with jury. I'm going insane trying to follow this cluster fuck of logic. --

[–] [email protected] 65 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Native-born Americans never have to worry about losing their citizenship, no matter what they do.

that is far too confident a statement

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (1 children)

They're called Indians for a reason. So we're going to deport them to ..........throws a dart at a map the Indian Ocean.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 16 hours ago

But where will the next 25 space x rockets crash?

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The government can only do this in specific situations. It must prove someone “illegally procured” citizenship by not meeting the requirements, or that they lied or hid important facts during the citizenship process.

Civil suit. Can anyone file a complaint?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yes, but they'll deport first. You can appeal from wherever.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

I'm thinking of citizens filing complaints about emerald mine nepo babies and models on genius visas

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I hope you Americans are happy letting these people remain power, happy letting this happen.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

There are processes in place to deal with this.

What we have is a lack of fortitude.

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