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Next-gen optical disk can store over 14,000 4k movies (www.digitaltrends.com)

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago

I hope they actually end up calling it the Very Big Disc (tm)

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

40x and faster drives are back!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

But how many hamster tails is that because I maybe have like 20. With maybe a few more here and there.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 8 months ago

...That's a lot of porn.

[+] [email protected] 22 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

1.6 Petabits or 200TB

The article says "What is that in terms humans understand," then does some math, and produces the figure of 14000 4k movies.

I'm a human and 200TB makes a lot more sense to me than 14000 4k movies. That isn't a standard unit. 14000 4k movies means nothing. You can have a 4k movie that's 200GB (that'd be 2.8PB) or 2GB (that'd be 28TB). What's the bit rate? In the article they mentioned that they just assumed that a 4k 2 hour long movie is 14GB.

What I'm way more concerned about is how expensive the disks and readers/writers are. According to the article, the disks are manufactured similarly to the CD, but what about the readers/writers? Could we see these as competitors to HDDs? 200TB is friggin insane, at a good price you'd be spending 2 grand on that much HDD storage.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

In the article they mentioned that they just assumed that a 4k 2 hour long movie is 14GB.

That's more what I would expect out of a 1080p movie on a disc. If I have 200TB to play with, I'm not going to care much about compressing the video any more than what the disc it originally came off of was at since artifacts could be introduced. Sure, I probably wouldn't notice most artifacts, but with that much storage even the massive 100GB rips would be a drop in the bucket so why risk it?

Could we see these as competitors to HDDs? 200TB is friggin insane, at a good price you’d be spending 2 grand on that much HDD storage.

I doubt it would compete with HDD for home use. Loading times off of optical discs are atrocious. Just archiving data, sure, but my HDDs actually still have games on them that I run. Old games, sure, but not something where more storage would be worth the reduced read/write speeds. Maybe for a home video server, but that's about it, and there's going to be some significant loading compared to current servers with HDDs.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

Yeah, for sure, I look for my larger files when I'm legally obtaining my movies.

I'd definitely have a place for them in my NAS, if they were much cheaper than HDDs. It'd be like an SSD cache to go with your HDDs, but a third slower tier for rarely accessed files.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I hope they come in vacuum cases, or the scratch is gonna hurt

[+] [email protected] -16 points 8 months ago (4 children)

I think its still usless imo.

200TB, I can literally put this in a single S3 bucket.

Physical media in my opinion is outdated.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago

Unless you physical control your media, you don't own your data.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Why store data on media when you can pay the price of a sizable mortgage payment for someone else to store it for you?

[–] [email protected] -3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

You do know its much safer and much more highly available to store it in a cloud rather than a piece of plastic, right? In a cloud you get it raided on multiple sites, etc… obv. Depends on how much you pay. Dont forget that CDs in their best of best conditions had a lifetime of merely 10 years. Dont know how much this new media holds with such density…

And you do own the data, read the contracts.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I'm not saying you don't own the data, I'm saying it's more expensive than storing it yourself. Obviously it depends on the purpose and budget; if you need it to be highly available and secure, and you have thousands of dollars to direct to the project, the cloud is great. If you want to make a backup of all your DVDs that fits on a single disc, it might be overkill.

The sort of data suited to discs like this is probably pretty different than the sort of data suited to an S3 bucket. It could make a decent tertiary backup though, a local copy of your data stored on offline media can be a lifesaver.

This isn't a competing technology to the cloud, it's complimentary.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 8 months ago (1 children)

You can give it to Amazon, so physical media is useless? Seriously?

I do see flaws with this much data density on an optical disc, mainly physical damage, but physical media will always have it's place.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 8 months ago

I can't comprehend it. Please elaborate it in numbers of an average-sized white truffle.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The DVD.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

It finally hit the corner straight on.

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