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I mean if you're going to dog on minorities then you gotta dog on the white people he has majority support from.

America has a FTTP voting system, so time has distilled its presidential election into to 2 real choices. This was one, and the milquetoast status quo party is the other. By that merit, not voting for one party helps the other party, though not as much as voting for the opposite. In our case, the opponent of the milquetoast party is the crypto Nazi party.

I'm not the other person you replied to, but personally I think there was a clear choice between the two candidates in regard to which one was better for the Palestinians given their track records. Granted, maybe not good enough in these voters opinions, given that they enabled a genocide in the first place and refused to swiftly correct that action.

Besides billionaires and straight, white, conservative, "Christian" men, I honestly don't know who benefits from a Trump/Musk presidency as compared to a Harris/Walz presidency.

I get that democrats weren't good enough, they rarely are in my opinion either, but I do consider them better than this. And yep, she and Biden enabled a genocide, no argument there. I even empathize with those that feel adamant that either we have justice all, or justice for none. But I think we are a little frustrated that in the fatalistic protest, Kamala's opponents ensured the doom of not just Palestinians, but women, LGBT+ folk, and likely many more.

But hey, price of eggs and all too, right?

Given the highly political atmosphere of Lemmy, I have the impression that most users vote hard. Most in the liberal side were vocal about their desire to vote Kamala to prevent *gestures broadly* from happening. However, users from the tankie instances, amounting to a third of lemmy, regularly decried the democrat option, instead urging protest votes or abstention.

The world isn’t lemmy, lemmy is lemmy. And lemmy has plenty people to clown on for actively choosing this.

Yes, because everyone who could have voted and didn't bears responsibility for looking the other way while Trump gained the presidency.

And everyone who was vocal at any point about not voting for Harris for any reason is culpable for assisting Trump in gaining the presidency, and for influencing others to do the same.

I won't deny that it was a stupid move by the dems, but at the same time choosing to abstain from one of the most important elections in US history because you don't want to choose between the lesser of two evils is just naive. Life is literally full of choosing between the lesser of two evils, inside and outside of politics. And I understand that the situation in Gaza is fucked up, but I also know that by abstaining it only made the situation worse. I know its not 100% their fault as there were many factors that led to Trump winning, but I personally don't think betting with other people's lives is altruistic. I think it's selfish.

It's a fucking war. Sometimes the only option you get is to put off losing. We didn't do that, in no small part because of idiot idealists who apparently refuse to understand a concept so basic even chimps get it. Now, thanks to that and SO much more, even being hopeful is approaching the realm of deluded fantasy.

I have no problem alienating people who think their own precious idea of morality is somehow so sacrosanct it can't be compromised even to actually save the lives they pretend to care about.

We tried gentle. Now we're annoyed and venting because we're powerless.

When you refuse to pick the lesser of two evils, what you are actually saying is you're comfortable with either one.