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When you refuse to pick the lesser of two evils, what you are actually saying is you're comfortable with either one.
When you refuse to see that picking evil will never lead to anything other than additional harm and suffering, you're saying you're comfortable with that.
How can you take issue with the person who chose another path and not the one you literally described as "evil?"
and by not picking either "evil" you allowed the worse one to win causing additional harm and suffering, and you're comfortable with that
you chose nothing thinking your inaction was the start of the great revolution that will fix the world
i'm thinking logic is not your strong suit
Once again the evil person is given a free pass here while you deride those who chose another path. These evil people have deluded you into thinking that every problem is a trolley problem to the point that you're supporting genocide while trying to claim the moral high ground. Explain that logic...
praise be! the lord hath blessed you with the true internal sight where not getting involved absolves you of any culpability. hail hail the great one! you shall never touch evil or be sullied in any way.
YOU ARE PURE!!!!!
There's the delusion again. The only way to involve yourself is by participating in the rigged game? Yeah I don't think so.
enjoy trump
And here the mask comes off as you make yourself indistinguishable from every other Trump supporter.
i guess you'll never understand tactical voting
coming to the conclusion that i'm a trump supporter tells me everything about your ability
And I guess you'll never understand why the Dems keep losing, not that you really care since you want others to "enjoy trump" like a good little minion.
they lost this time because you took your principles over stopping the evil of trump, effectively making you a trump supporter, so enjoy what you voted for
And what about 2020 when Biden only won because Trump fucked up so bad with COVID, or 2016 when they got him elected in the first place? Are you one of those people with goldfish memories that can only remember things that are in the current news cycle?
So you agree you made a mistake. I'm sure would like to blame the previous elections
Maybe you were manipulated. Maybe you just couldn't see the danger.
Maybe you were part of the problem; telling people Harris was evil
Made a mistake in what? Your statement makes zero sense.
You're either ignorant of the past or intentionally omitting this same exact scenario playing out the last several elections, while continuing to proclaim that the people who lost these elections were the "best option." You're trying to gaslight everyone into ignoring their own eyes when hindsight makes it very fucking clear that these people were some of the worst options evidenced by the fact that Trump was elected president again and Democrats lost control of every branch of government.
I'd love to see you point out some examples of actions Harris took to demonstrate the importance of defeating Trump. Was it when she spent weeks courting Dick Cheneys endorsement? Was it when she attacked immigrants? Was it when she stated that nothing will change from the current unpopular president's (that she replaced halfway through the campaign) policies? Was it when she told the working class that they're idiots for complaining about the economy because some numbers on a graph were higher than they were before? I'd love to hear what she did to court anyone's vote to ensure that she would win over Trump.
voila
and you use these excuses to get trump elected
you seem strong and yet all these ideas got the most evil candidate elected
how do you explain this
You use these excuses to continue to do absolutely nothing other than opening your mouth and having unelectable candidates fed to you. I want change, and you want more Trump and Republican control if it means things stay exactly the same.
The "most evil" candidate got elected because the Democrats didn't put up any opposition and allowed him to take the seat yet again. Protecting Israel and the wealthy were more important to them than the American people and democracy.
I can see at this point that you don't really have any legitimate response and are just falling back on repeating what you've already said, so have a good day.
i look forwqaward to our next converstatopn
you said something about Harris i like
are you awRE OF BLADE RUNNER
In a real life trolley problem, you are supposed to blame the ones driving the train and tying up people to tracks, not the guy pulling the lever.
Yes not voting was stupid, but it's dumber to actually think they hold the blame. The dems won't even acknowledge being pro genocide was a bad move and it's because they feel confident their base has been manipulated to blame a scape goat.
What kind of change are we to expect if we can't even be vocal about something so ridiculous as supporting genocide even after most of us held the line and voted for it anyways. Keep them accountable and stop giving them an easy out.
You can be vocal about it and still vote for the lesser evil in order to reduce harm and save lives.
This is what almost every legitimate progressive voice I knew did.
It is what I did.
It is what every leftist I know did.
When will libs understand leftists are serious in their coalition building and stop existentially questioning the trustworthiness of our intentions?
Disagree with me, lets talk policy, let us hash out together the 1000 ways things were able to get this bad... but please fucking STOP categorically calling into question our intentions or ability to make the necessary play none of us are excited about. This is baby stuff, leftist discourse discusses this stuff constantly, terminally online leftists by and large get it trust me.
we voted for Harris
we voted for Biden
we voted for Clinton
The people who didn't turn out to vote weren't highly informed leftists and more importantly weren't the kind of people who give a shit about hearing what terminally upset leftists had to say. If you think Sam Seder, Emma Vigeland, Krystal Ball and Kyle Kulinsky, The Rational National, Benjamin Dixon etc... had an impact on unengaged low information voters you are making an absurd leap of thinking... and they advocated for voting for Harris anyways, go back, check the receipts.
https://youtu.be/9qZWA32-OfM
Most importantly, the ones who didn't turn out to vote were in states that don't matter anyway. Harris actually got more votes than Biden in most key swing states.
This is a thread about what Trump is currently doing and the most upvoted comment is blaming voters. I don't know what alienating people after the election serves. It's literally going to make sure they repeat the same behavior, doubly so if the dems feel confident enough to run on apathy a second time.
My point is that currently, most here seem to be vocal about the wrong thing. They voted stupidly but we're goaded into it by a party that clearly does not represent its constituantes anymore. We should be asking the party to change but we are doing the opposite.
Exactly. The truth is that the current DNC is utterly incapable of actually winning a presidential election, and they have been incapable of it for more than a decade. 2020 was an anomaly; they won only due to covid. Fixating on Gaza will only ensure that the fundamental mistakes aren't corrected and that Republicans win again in 2028.