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I usually assume when Europeans complain about American beers, they just are complaining about our "domestic" beers like Bud Light, Coors, PBR, etc. which makes sense, they are our bottom shelf beers.

I recently chatted with someone at a party who said "no, all American beers are bad" including microbrewery beers.

I've never been to Europe so I wouldn't know, but I do like my Left Handed Milk Stout, NWPAs, and hell even the hipstered out IPAs.

Are these what y'all are referencing?

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

American here:

There’s a LOT of bad American beer, but to say ALL is just plain dumb. The micro brewery boom made a lot of small breweries pop up and about 90% had no idea what they were doing so yea a lot of them are kinda garbage.

I personally know micro brewers in NY who studied their ass off to make some incredible beers that I would put right up there with Westies and Cantillon.

One of the best beers I’ve ever had is from a Gypsy brewer in NY called Cantina Cantina. The guy used to work in my local distributor, then went to work for our favorite local brewer Barrier, then took his expertise to Greenport Brewery and turned around their whole operation, then started brewing his own absolute masterpieces.

My point is the best of the best is probably going to be buried deep under a pile of garbage beers cause they’re usually obsessed with making art and don’t focus on getting their name out there.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I've had plenty of really good craft beer but anything mass produced is fine at best and gutter water at worst.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

Exactly. Imagine if we judged European beer based on nothing but Heineken.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

I did have trouble a few years back finding an IPA option that wasn’t citrusy somehow. I want to taste my beer dammit!

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago

Not as bad as American "chocolate" .

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Maybe it's because I don't really like beer (or alcohol) but I've been to Germany and the beer wasn't any better or worse than American beer.

The Jagermeister, on the other hand, was definitely way better in Germany.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

Because of the German Purity Law, there isn't much that German beer can do to experiment or try new things. There are some excellent German beers (Brlo is one), but generally you don't get the variety that you find in other countries.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Prairie Artisan Ales is one of the most unique craft breweries I've ever experienced. The downside is it's in Oklahoma, so I'll never visit again, but if you get a chance to find some at a local liquor store or import, try it out. Plus the can designs are cool. They have some delicious stuff.

But yeah LeftHand in Longmont, Colorado is incredible.

As for European, Belgian Tripel, it is hands down the best.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

But yeah LeftHand in Longmont, Colorado is incredible.

Their Milk stout is pretty popular in my city

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Mass produced beers are pretty bad. Ironically the bigger the brand the worse the beer generally. Americans are known for bud and Coors which are especially shit

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What's the difference between bud light and having sex in a canoe?

None.

Both are fucking close to water.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Bud Light is how you stay hydrated between shots

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Real talk, it's your common mass produced and internationally sold beers that suck. S'ok, a lot of mass produced Canadian beer sucks too (lookin' at you, Alexander Keith's. Pride of Nova Scotia indeed.)

The issue is that the good stuff doesn't often make it outside of your borders. I've had decent beer when actually in the U.S before.

Will say I will drink a cold PBR if there's no other valid choice, but if someone just has Coors or Bud (especially Bud - but especially Bud Light) I'll stick with water. Only other American beer that reaches Canada I'd probably drink is Lucky Lager, but that's more out of nostalgia for west coast teenaged mayham than its own merits, and Kokanee would produce the same effect and caveat anyway.

Edit: After thinking about it more, I've enjoyed Sam Adams limited releases before, and we get those sometimes.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

I've enjoyed Sam Adams limited releases before,

The Summer Ale is nice on a hot day

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

The American beer you get in Canada is terrible. Budweiser and Miller and shit like that. American beer at an American pub was great, when I last visited.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

Short answer: yes

Long answer: yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeees

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago

The fuck? American craft beer is absolutely delicious. A lot of light beer brands are also good. Who's saying American beer sucks?

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