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Hmmm… this might be exactly my take when vegans start to pay more because trump decided to flood the farms that produce a big part of their diet. Or when they realize that Mexico and Canada produce a lot of it as well.
Maybe it’s best not to be a smug asshole about things because things have a way of coming back around….
Like veganuary or a catered event they'll rinse though all the things you need on a daily shop
Any recommendations for a good source of omega 3 fatty acids for a plant based diet?
I think you'd probably need more than in an animal based diet since plant based fats and oils have way more omega 6 then animal based fats which can fuck up the balance.
The opposite is true, o3/6 exist in balance. If you don’t eat any omega3 your body gets a lot better at converting o6. Vegans get better omega readings than people who eat fish 2-3x a week.
Ground flax in cooking and you’re sorted
Freshly ground flax seeds are supposed to be good for that, but I'm way too lazy to do that haha
Instead, you can just get Omega 3 pills, seems like the least hassle 🤷
Get the algae omega pills
It’s kinda our business too because people are still forcing birds into confined spaces and making them sick, and being vegan is a stance against that.
I'd even argue that higher prices on eggs would make people cram more birds into the same spaces just to produce more eggs and make more money
Can anyone familiar with veganism answer me a curiosity?
Would someone who's vegan be fine with owning their own chickens and using them for eggs? If you're not engaging in the marketplace for them, you can absolve yourself of the suffering egg laying hens in factory farms could be experiencing, but I'm not sure how the 'suffer free because I raised them' plays into the belief/practice.
I agree with what the others said, but I just want to point out that this 'model' vegan isn't nearly as important as you might think. You don't get a prize or hivemind access or whatever for conforming to some exact criteria. It's ultimately just a convenient label to summarize that you've made certain moral choices. Well, and to easily identify products that work well with your choices. But making those choices is very much each person's own adventure.
You would need to buy the chicken from somewhere. You would only buy the female chicken, because you want the eggs. There would still be male chickens that no one wants, except for reproduction. That would at least be my logic so I'd say no.
This has been discussed thousands of times online so I don't feel the need to type out a very long answer.
The pure existence of modern day chickens is animal abuse. The closest known relative to the modern day chicken lays about 10-15 or so eggs a year. Modern day chickens lay eggs daily. It is extremely hard on their body, they have been selectively bred to provide output with no care for their wellbeing.
That being said, if a vegan were to rescue a chicken or something, and it produces eggs, the best you can do is usually feed them back to it. I know that sounds weird but if you feed the chicken back its own eggs, it helps recuperate lost nutrients, and they love it.
Veganism is a philosophy about animal exploitation. Vegans don't even eat honey because it is an animal product. If you eat eggs from a back yard chicken, you are still participating in the exploitation of that animal and feeding systems which further exploit animals. Some detailed further reading:
https://theminimalistvegan.com/backyard-eggs/
So no, a vegan would not do this. Though, what OP said about nomenclature remains true - some people are loose with the terms
e: a word
It really depends on the type of "vegan". Some people are in it for the dietary benefits and others are in it for the animal welfare. Dietary is actually "plant based" but most people just say vegan, even it it doesn't quite fit.
The ones in it for climate/dietary benefits are plant-based, not vegan, as they wouldn't have an issue with e.g. leather (at least the dietary ones)
True but when you go to a restaurant or store it is easier to just say vegan. No need to confuse people.
There's also the environmental ones.
And the squeamish
i dont really get why people have so much resistance when switching foods. seasons and shortages have existed since people started agriculture and when something becomes scarce, you pivot and eat what youve got. if there was some bizarre soy disease and tofu becomes expensive, im just gonna buy lentils 🤷
People are creature comforted and they literally don't know how to live without those creature comforts, so instead of considering changing anything in their lives they just double down and do stupid shit to get a hold of those creature comforts. Fucking addicts.
Wonder if Just Egg is competitive on pricing yet...
Ground beef has been creeping up too, I'm honestly curious at what point does Beyond / "Impossible" brands start breaking even.
They're also relatively healthier, so if you include that "cost"...
Shoprite by me is $4.50/lb for meat, $7.99/lbs for beyond
It's got a bit to go. Checked yesterday , granted at whole foods, and their fake ground beef was $0.56 and ounce while there regular ground beef was $0.38 per ounce . Both were the same 365 in store brand.
The cheapest fake ground beef cost about the same as the premium bison ground beef.
Literally just crumble tofu, fry it and add a thickish chickpea flower and water mix at the end. Season with KalaNamak. Done. Price for all of the ingrediets is very low.
Where I am it's currently $5.99 for the equivalent of 10 eggs. I expect that price to jump soon because capitalism.
Well if you use the liquid just egg, just remember low heat and add some fermented garlic 🍳
What is the fermented garlic added for? Could you substitute it for black salt? Just curious.
It's for the "sulfur" taste to make it taste more like eggs. As another comment mentioned, there are other ways to add the sulfur taste, but fermented garlic is the easiest for me to acquire. I believe black salt does the same (though obviously adds additional salt)
Isn't easier to just... stop buying eggs?
Won't the prices come down if people, you know, stop pushing demand for them?
Seriously not a bad time to consider vegetarianism or veganism.
You say that like we don't import a fuck ton of our produce from Mexico.
Everything is about to get way more expensive.
This is why backyard and community gardens are about to get a whole lot more important. A few of us have been trying to convince my job to set one up and I'm hoping tariffs are the push we need to get it done.
Won't prices come down if people, you know, stop buying vegetables?
Vaccines are made with eggs, it will affect you
Even if eggs go to $24/dozen, then the cost of egg per dose of flu vaccine would be less than a $1. I only get one flu vaccine a year, so still irrelevant. Also alternative methods for flu vaccine exist and are used already.
And you don't think pharma will skyjack the price because they can?
Not mRNA vaccines (like covid)
Wait until vegans find out how much of their food comes from Mexico
Don't forget how much US based farms depend on migrant workers.
That doesn’t help your statement at all. Between the tariffs on imported foods and the lack of migrant workers on domestic farms, vegetable prices are going to skyrocket in a way that could potentially make egg prices look tame… but I guess that’s “none of my business”
Farm animals are also typically fed with produce these days. Grazing has become largely the exception, because the animals take longer to grow. As such, when produce prices go up, animal product prices will likely climb higher.
Animal product prices can’t go above what the market will bear. Meat spoiling on shelves will drive the prices back down.
If farmers can no longer afford to feed their cattle imported soybeans then they’ll go back to feeding domestic grains and corn.
Good thing only vegans eat vegetables.