Oh no...
Anyways, another reason why to use Qt rather than GTK for your app.
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You have to decide whether you want to be Linux app or GNOME app
Gnome is doing their famous "trust us, we know better" skit again. Always a crowd pleaser.
As much as I love Wayland, they really should keep support for those who have to use X11.
By the time GTK5 appears, a vanishingly small percentage of Linux users will need X11.
I run Wayland on 2009 hardware now.
As toolkits abandon X11, it is going to pressure other operating systems to move to Wayland as well.
FreeBSD is already moving. Even Haiku has Wayland support. So we are talking about the smaller BSDs and the Solaris derivatives. Or ancient operating systems on original hardware I guess. In which case, they can run the older apps which is likely all they can run anyway.
Worst, worst case, you can run Wayland on x11. If there is something you absolutely need, I guess you can run Wayland apps on x11 that way.
Hopefully Wayland does sort everything out before it releases
Will QT 7 Do the same?
I'm using a 49" monitor and dividing it up in virtual X11 monitors/screens for flexibility. Running a tiling window manager with lots of virtual desktops, but with fullscreen support separate monitors are still needed. Wayland are still missing the support for dividing up the display, which is probably the last thing keeping me on X11.
The lack of proper tablet support in wayland prevents me from being excited for this. I wish there was more news on that front.
You mean like Wacom tablets? I’m curious to know what’s missing. I’ve been using one of those XP Pen tablets on GNOME and Wayland without much issue. I’m using it for writing more than drawing though.
I mean, my issue is that most buttons on my huion are still non bindable, and some graphical interfaces cannot be interacted with in mouse mode and only register as touch. Lastly, occasionally programs completely ignore pen sensitivity, such as blender.
This experience was when I was last on gnome. I've been on budgie for a while as a result of needing a tablet for my hobbies.
My main problem with it is that you cannot scroll using the pen
I couldn't figure out how I'm supposed to use my pen for scrolling (I decided to stop using mouse and shelved it) so I bought a macropad with 3 knobs and ascended to godhood.
I really wish Wayland was more fleshed out & stable before all of this happened. Color management isn’t even yet finalized & putting accurate colors on the screen is like the most important part.
I really wish Arcan were further along.
We live in a wild world where people feel so confident about the wayland snake oil that they only added color in 2024!
It actually was merged just few days ago, I mean the color management protocol
til about arcan. how is it better than wayland?
Arcan is a cool idea but you mostly hear about it from people complaining that Wayland is not ready. Of course, Wayland is already used by more than half of Linux users and Arcan does not really exist yet.
i was more curious about the technical side of it
Let's just hope XFCE can finish the transition before then. If not, I am not looking forward to having to shop for a new DE.
XFCE is still using GTK 3, why would they care what Gnome does with GTK 5? Nobody but Gnome is even using GTK 4.
Not necessarily - pavucontrol switched to GTK4, and there are a lot of other applications that I use that are on it as well. If XFCE stays on X11, I wouldn't be able to run any application that updates to GTK5 (except through some hack like running Weston nested in X, which I used to do when I used Waydroid).
It's true that there are some apps not directly associated with any DE that have moved to GTK4. If GTK5 actually was likely to come out any time soon you might have to worry about finding alternatives when they switch to GTK5. That being said though, GTK3 had been out for over 9 years before GTK4 came along, there were 4 years between the "last" version of GTK3 and GTK 4.0.0, they're still in the "oh, this is what we'll probably do when we release GTK5" phase of development, XFCE has already made a bunch of progress porting everything over to Wayland, and DE agnostic apps are less likely to switch over right away if mid-size DEs like XFCE and Cinnamon still don't have good Wayland support. I wouldn't stress out about it too much.
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