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[–] [email protected] 16 points 14 hours ago (3 children)

In a world where async communication is effortless, demanding immediate attention is antisocial.

You're saying that you don't care what I'm doing at the moment. You want my full attention immediately. Even leaving a message is more of a time waste than a simple text message

  1. don't call unless it's urgent
  2. if you're calling me it's not urgent

This doesn't apply to landlines, ofc

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 14 hours ago

Two words for me. Read. Receipts. I have found that someone will inevitably text me and say, "why didn't you respond?" Fucker. You texted me. Want me to actually engage with you? Call me. Otherwise you're now at my mercy.

I prefer calling because it's easy to silence and just let it go to VM if I am busy. Call back immediately and that's usually a sign of being needed.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

Its my right to be not reachable, outside of work i will take time for your matter when its fitting for me.

And im forgetful and prefer to be able read important information again.

Thats why my phone is always on mute and my voice recorder tells people my email address.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 14 hours ago (7 children)

Why are people so offended over the fact there are some ppl who don't like phone calls? 🤷‍♀️ who cares

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

Easy:

Between ages 13 and 18 if I received a phone call it was because I was in trouble, so now when I get one there is a pang of guilt and panic over whatever it is I could have possibly done

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

In addition to everything else, there's also a feedback loop of spam calls predominating. The more legit conversation moves to other methods, the more spam calls stick out. That, in turn, means even more people prefer something other than phone calls. It eventually gets to the point where 99% of calls are spam, and that whole method of communication becomes useless.

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[–] [email protected] -1 points 16 hours ago (3 children)

When I need to solve a problem I use the fastest method. Talking about the problem. Anyone who thinks they can do that as quickly through texts or emails is just not interested in quickly resolving it. No way anyone can solve a problem faster with anything less than a conversation.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

I'm really tired of this self imposed bullshit.

I'm sure the same people who post this are also top contributors in anti work. Just miserable people being miserable. Worst part, they'll call on self identified autism or neurodivergence making it slap to the face for those actually affected by it.

I'll forever fight for those on the spectrum and I've got no patience for pretend victims.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Don't you sound like a peach!

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 17 hours ago (4 children)

How? Asynchronous communication is better for a lot of people. And now that we have really good choices for that, it's hard to ignore.

A phone call demands that you drop everything in that moment and pay close attention to the person on the other end. If they ramble, deviate, breathe heavily, have a lot of background noise, etc, you're stuck with that experience for the duration. Also, recording without consent is illegal in a lot of places, so you have to be able to write things down in order to refer back to the conversation if it contains any important information.

In contrast, everything else is self-documenting, can be read through multiple times, and can be handled when there is time to focus on that task. As a bonus: most people can read and understand text faster than they can listen. So it's just more efficient.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Which is why I'll never understand people who send recordings. It's the worst of both worlds.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

People who send voice notes piss me off so much.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

That thing about there not being a recording is precisely why emails give me mad anxiety and calls do not. Granted, you have to tell/text me to find a time that works for both. Otherwise, I'll return the call at my convenience. Also, I hate when a task has to be on my mind for several days because there's back and forth over email because of questions. Makes me anxious as well. Guess what I'm saying is, people have different preferences for different reasons and that's fine. No reason to argue why you think your preference is objectively superior.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 16 hours ago

This is precisely why you should never quit via a conversation with HR. You should send HR and your personal email an email detailing your resignation. Same for anything else that is sensitive. I'm fact you should keep record of everything you do for the company via email. It helps you personally because you can show how many good things you did that year. They can't comeback and say you were Lazy if you can show an email trail showing the exact opposite. Similar in cases of sexual or racial abuse...don't say anything to the perps...email them describing exactly what they did and cc or bcc your self and HR.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

I absolutely detest text messaging or emails. You have a problem? Call me because I can probably solve your issue in one minute of phone call. I have been almost always been subjected to texting sessions that lasted for several hours because the dumbass on the other end lacked the spelling and vocab skills to provide an accurate written description of the problem.

Time is money and even sometimes life threatening unless the fastest method of communication is use. And fastest ain't an email or text.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Long way to say you're a slow reader

[–] [email protected] -5 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

Think of it as a way to say you have no clue how to communicate correctly through the written word. By the time I'm forced to wade through your lack of punctuation, misspellings and the autocorrect blunders and the stupid emojis to decipher what you REALLY meant, I already have equated your IQ to be around the range of my old orange tabby cat.

If you send me a text, I will consider it of such low priority that I might get back to you in a week or so.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

This whole statement vibrates in Boomer

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 15 hours ago

Perhaps you could consider that for diverse reasons people have different prefered ways of communication. You have your own prefered way for your own reasons and that's ok. That doesn't mean you should disrespect other people's communication choices or them personally.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 17 hours ago

How did voicemail (or voice message) make it above skywriting?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Why do 98, 99 and 100 have no dots?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Because they aren't items on the list

[–] [email protected] 2 points 15 hours ago

Then why list them?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 18 hours ago

For me, calls interrupt my workflow with things that don’t need immediate attention anyway. So it draws focus away unnecessarily.

I also prefer to have a written record of things if they’re important. That way you can always refer back to it. A phone call just annoys me at best and divides my attention. So it’s in their interest as well that I can respond when I’ve got time.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

Easy, back in the day all we had was phone call for instant communication, so not much to compare to.

Also, you didn't call a person, you called a house or place of work. This meant it was used more sparingly (need to keep the line open/share with the rest of the house) and if you were away, then that phone call couldn't bother you. This also meant people were used to not being able to reach who they wanted to talk to, so if you felt like letting the answering machine get it, no one would think anything of it. You were either on the phone or present in the moment, not trying to talk with a number of people who don't know each other.

Now everyone has a phone at their hip. You can call someone and if that someone sends it to voicemail, you know they did and it can become a point of drama depending on the circumstance. Now I can be in the middle of text conversations with a half dozen people across half the world and so when my phone unexpectedly rings then I wonder who is this asshole who thinks they deserve my full attention over these other folks, even though the other person has no way of knowing about those conversations. We are expected to juggle concurrent conversations and a phone call derails that.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Y'know, I've been thinking it's more than that lately. Yes, all that is true, but I think the younger generations who grew up being terminally connected to everything, always having to have a phone on them, always needing to be able to be reached by people, all their business on social media etc... I think we've developed an unspoken respect that when we contact people we let them respond on their own terms. If you text someone you are telling them, hey, I need something but, you can read this when it's convenient, and you can respond when and in the method that's convenient to you. When you call someone you are saying, I need something and I need you to deal with it right now over immediate voice chat. Yes, we can say I'm busy therefore I'll let it go to voicemail, but in this day and age of respectful texting being the norm, we often assume a call out of the blue from a known number IS something important that requires immediate attention.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 17 hours ago

This creates a generational disconnect. Like when my phone rings unexpectedly at work, it's 95% this one colleague in his 70s who is nice enough, but it instinctively feels rude because I feel like I need to answer. From his perspective, if I just don't answer that's fine and that's the etiquette he was used to, try to call and no biggie if it doesn't connect.

Going the other way, I know someone dealing with a person in their 80s over urgent important stuff and that person just will be utterly unreachable so much of the time. For them, there's no such thing as "urgent enough to need immediate attention" because that was just not possible for them and society developed around the norm of folks just not being available as much.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

why there are no dots after the last numbers

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

A phone call allows people to hold a conversation. All the others are just correspondence.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 15 hours ago

Yes. And some people prefer correspondence, that's ok.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 20 hours ago

I have never liked to talk on the phone. I hate talking to someone when I can't see their face... which is weird because I did VO for years and often did it with someone directing me remotely, but somehow that was different.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

I don't like phone calls either. But now people are starting to send voice messages. Might just as well call me if you're going to steal 3 minutes with every message, with info which could have been typed in 5 words. I ignore voice messages, I tell people I do yet they still get angry with "why didn't you reply, all the messages is only 7 minutes of listening time it's not that bad". FFS

[–] [email protected] 11 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Honestly voice messages make me unreasonably angry. It's all of the inconvenience of a phone call with none of the immediacy, like voicemail but for every sentence. Thank you for sharing my hatred, I feel less alone

[–] [email protected] 2 points 18 hours ago

Call: don't pick up.

Voicemail: disabled.

"ah well, let's leave a voice message then, I'm sure they'll appreciate it."

"I don't want to use both hands to type" - use SwiftKey swipe. Works great.

"I don't want to use one hand to type" - use voice to text. Works great.

"I just want to publicly use voice messages because everyone does it" - I don't want you as a friend, family member, colleague or anything else. I hate you, everything you send me will be blocked and marked as spam and you just removed yourself from my contact list.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

Personally since chat/messages are now ubiquituous, call implies you need my reply/attention/input now, and/or need the vocal tonal part of communication.

If you call, and it's clear there was neither reason, I'm annoyed. There was no reason to interrupt me, as I'll assume there's an emergency or urgent situation and pick up dropping whatever I'm doing.

There are exceptions of course, but nowadays those (like family get-togethers or check-ins) have honestly moved to group video chats so they're not "calls", either.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 15 hours ago

At my workplace, the response time for text-based messages (eg via Teams) varies wildly. Sometimes I get a response promptly. Sometimes it’s same day, sometimes it’s later that week, and sometimes I don’t get a response at all. So unfortunately the best way to get an answer I need is to just call them. Do I need that information that instant? Not necessarily, but I can’t risk the message being put off/ignored/forgotten for a week or more.

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