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[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I can't support this vector of mocking what Trump is doing.

What we should be doing is paying whoever is picking our crops a decent wage, undocumented or not. If the wage isn't enough for any citizens or documented immigrants to take the job - that's capitalism at work and wages need to go up.

If prices are going to go up now because there are no undocumented immigrants harvesting for us, then we were already exploiting those people terribly in the first place. (And there really is no if here - I doubt anyone reading this is likely to disagree that we have exploited our undocumented population in this and other areas.)

Whatever the problems are to complain about with Trumps policies, high produce prices due to deportation is not (IMO) one of them. Status quo was already exploitation and unfair labor practices. Let's fix immigration (if we have a country left) when he's done, but let's work on the exploitation, too.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Humor is one of the few outlets for people who feel helpless.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

Lmaooo it's like the A-Team all over again

Get out there in the fields, MAGA, let's see how you like it

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Canada, America and Mexico should just form into one supranational state like the EU. Mexicans can be farm hands legally, like many Balkans come to Western Europe for seasonal farming, and the state gets development grants; American farms can get cheap labour without having to deal with headache inducing, Kafkaesque labour and immigration bureaucracy, ordinary Americans get free healthcare from Canada and American gun nuts could kill all the cartels they want. Meanwhile, Canada gets military protection from US and can holiday in sunny Cancun visa-free for Christmas.

Win-win!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

No thanks! EU please invite us to your friend group. 🤣

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That's a weird way to refer to slaves

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago

i took it as a reference to immigration controls and forced deportation

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 days ago

In 2022 the Department of Labor estimated, based on 1259 observations, that unauthorized workers make up 37-47% of agricultural workers (95% confidence interval).

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Fifty-eight percent of crop workers interviewed had work authorization in 2021–2022. Among the 38 percent who were U.S. citizens, 83 percent were born in the United States, and 17 percent were naturalized citizens. The remainder of the work-authorized population consisted mainly of lawful permanent residents (18%) with 2 percent authorized through some other visa program.

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The USA is cooked.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Nah. They're going to first start with prisoners. We already use prison labor; they start making prisons worse as an inducement to get people to work. Getting out early now requires some prison labor.

Now that the homeless can get arrested, they get processed in the system as well. As states are now incentivized to arrest people, policing becomes much harsher.

States then cut housing benefits to push more people on the street. Children are tried as adults to get them to work.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That's probably what they want to do... Luckily, this crazy first week was a great reminder the administration can't actually govern. They can't navigate the bureaucracy, they can move things around, but you can't just sign a piece of paper with a sharpie and leverage the prison population... You have to actually organize things to make that happen

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The federal government doesn't have to organize anything. They can let the states do it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

Okay... But like still, that doesn't just happen. It takes coordination and planning, you can't just deport the labor force.

You can tell states to use their legal slave labor... But that doesn't just happen. If your state isn't ready for it, if they don't have the details worked out...very literally everyone will starve. I don't mean eggs are expensive, I mean you go to the grocery store and half the shelves are empty, and the rest are crazy pricey. People will die, we all will suffer

It's collapse of the Union level stuff

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

"pick crops'

"Stewards for the Lord's Harvest"

MAGAd that more for you.

[–] [email protected] 62 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Crop pickers should make $20+/hr, as should everyone. Relying on underpaid illegal labor forces only helps other corporations to underpay their workers too. We need living wages.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 3 days ago

Oh, it gets worse.

Federal law currently allows the agency to issue certificates that let employers pay certain workers less than the federal minimum of $7.25 an hour based on the notion that their disabilities hinder productivity.

As things currently stand, many disabled people work in what are called sheltered workshops run by certified employers that pay as little as 25 cents an hour.

25 cents. What more could you want?

[–] [email protected] 91 points 3 days ago

I think it's funny that no matter how bad the work shortages will get, it's never going to get to the point where conservatives actually acknowledge the root problem.

There are plenty of young men and women who would love to do hard work outside for decent pay, it's just that corporations like CHS depend on illegally cheap labor and inhumane conditions to make billions of dollars in revenue every year.

There's plenty of money in agriculture, just as there have always been. The scare of increasing food pricing is just a threat to preserve their profit model. Meanwhile we're still paying landowners 30 billion dollars a year not to work their land to maintain profitable prices on food.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 3 days ago (2 children)

So back to migrant farmers, but without the pay.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I gotta say, I'd get a sensible chuckle seeing white folks picking cotton for no pay.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

They just working for the workmans comp.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago

Indentured servants

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