OP what's the actual fediverse link? I want to Boost it on Mastodon but all I get is a link to a .jpeg
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FWIW I know it's from https://octodon.social/@jalefkowit but trying to search I can't find the original post from 2022.
I agree that there should definitely be safety regulations in place for ship recycling, but this guy is building a strawman argument and it really undermines his point in my view.
I agree, machines do tons of dangerous and hard work people used to. Farm labor is the greatest example, it used to be backbreaking work for dozens of men and animals and now it's one guy with a tractor or combine.
That we haven't automated ALL hard work before we started on art isn't a great argument IMO
Mentioned it in another comment already... People already do this with robotics and ai
Everything that can be digitalized, like words, music or pictures, will go through this enshittification process one day, be it by humans or by AI or both. It's not good but at the same time it's a great challenge for artists in these times to create experiences that cannot be digitalized, or displayed on a screen.
He's right, why haven't people started working on digitalized ship breaking.....algorithms?
Algorithms are fundamental for physical tasks as well. Robotics has been around for many decades, with some infrastructure and the right algos I'm sure it could be tackled, whatever ship breaking is.
Yeah maybe but that isn’t what he meant
What did he mean? I understand his comment as meaning that algorithms can't break ships, but in reality algorithms can be used to control robotics. I stand by my comment, even though algorithms can't melt steel beams
He sounds like he was asking why people don't start working on AI that can "break down ships" (or other industrial labor I guess), but rather work on AI that can mimic artists. He wants to spare people the dangerous and backbreaking work that still exists in the world with the use of AI. If he said "Robots" or "Machines" I wouldn't mind it but this is another case of a stupid person thinking AI is almighty.
I've been saying this ages. Thank you assholes for focusing on automating art and games like chess. What is the benefit for humanity? You just ruined my hobbies. Focus on automatic plumbers and farmers, for Thoth's sake.
I can't speak for art, but I think that engines certainly have their place in improving the way we play chess (and not just objectively, but in terms of human play too). Leela's latest WDL (win/draw/loss) contempt is a really neat tool that looks for complexity in a position over objective 'best' moves, producing uniquely aggressive positions see this vid for an example implementation.
Robots cost a lot and most of all new advancements are spearheaded by the Foss comunity
Robots used to cost a lot, but now technology is cheap and you can build a lot of stuff even at home and without a real workshop.
"Cheap" no one is ready topaya a 4th of a months salary to risk potentially just throwing away with no real benefit for oneself the upfront cost just isn't worth it most of the time for the Foss comunity
Ok i never said anything about the foss community and i was talking about the assholes that can afford to spend millions to train a model, like openai did starting wih gpt3
Right but at that point the projects where already underway and at the start openai also was open and relied partially on open source contributions
This is one of the most interesting takes I’ve seen on AI.
Such a good point. We totally need robots to be the ones picking through piles of E-waste to get precious metals, not little kids.
Disappointed programmer here. I thought I could automate farming so that people wouldn't die of hunger. Now I realise that if you automate farming, it would just make some CEO more money because his company now makes corn syrup and destroys rural communities even faster.
I got my "contract not renewed", for the Fortune 500 B2B CRM company I worked for.
I can try to bust my ass to make my 2018 laptop try to render images I can't draw, which does give me some pleasure. It's not the AI tool's fault humanity sucks, it's the goddamn people with money.
The world loves Michael Jackson and The Beatles. The problem is most of them died, but now we have Beatles Jackson. The fab 5. Billie Jean is not my Yellow Submarine! Featuring Kurt Cobain and Cab Calloway. The biggest hit of the year fellas, I’m telling you. Art is over. Art said god is dead. God is just being born!
Bow before your digital overlords!
I never even imagined a world where machines replace artists. Man.
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