You say that, but we seem to be at least on track to a better 2050 than they had.
We've not had a eugenics war, drug-controlled supersoldiers, nuclear conflagration, nor a mutant genocide campaign, and we may not get the second and fourth.
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Yeah in the Star Trek universe they praised Elon Musk
Guess we have already split off from that timeline. Unless of course the fascists will rewrite history.
I feel like people overblow the Elon Musk reference. Even putting aside the plot twist, it's been nearly 200 years from now, and they had the whole nuclear apocalypse in the early 2000s, which would only further muddle things.
People today praise Thomas Edison, and he was not that much better in many respects.
It's entirely reasonable for someone in the 23rd century to lose some of the details that we might have today.
It was an incredibly dumb decision to reference a living person. This just shows what a crock of shit Disco is.
what we wanted:
what we got:
i will weep for the futures lost, but i will not weep for getting mirror kira
I mean, looking on the bright side: Even the Federation universe had to go through two civil wars, World War III, and the eugenics war to get to where they ended up.
I guess the silver lining is we'll kill ourselves off before we ever make it off the planet to spread our violence elsewhere.
Fuck yeah! I believe in us!
What does that mean? What's the second icon?
Explained here: https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Terran_Empire
Oh I thought this was a StarCraft reference
Even Roddenberry knew by the end that his dream wasnt possible. Humans arenβt that good and altruistic, we are conquerors
Starfleet command now that's a cool name for your space agency
No, that's not what we're getting. Say what you will about the Terran Confederation, at least they built a space empire under a unified common goal. At least those humans were outrageously evil.
Instead, what we're getting is this:
Accurate. Especially to the first 30 min of Romulus.
We're getting neither .... we're getting this instead ...
Swords in space??
*squinting*
We're getting the Might and Magic devs? Is that why Q was a secret boss in MM6?
The word Utopia translates to "No place".
There is no such thing as a utopia. The point of stories about utopias is just to get people to think about how to improve things. Not to make people upset they aren't living in a place that can never exist.
The world presented by Star Trek isn't telling you how things should be, how could it? It's wildly inconsistent about how things work, like do they have money or not? It seems it's just conveying they have an ideal future economy, but since the writers don't know what that will be, it's deliberately vague.
The point is to show various problems we have today from the perspective of people in a better future so we can understand that our problems as solvable and motivate us to solve them.
If you're giving up on solving the problems we have today because they seem impossible to solve or you believe they should magically solve themselves, then you're missing the point of Star Trek.
That reminds me, does anyone know where I could get an agonizer repaired for cheap?
O'Brien can fix anything, and does his own Quality Assurance, so is extra cheap
Strange that the Space Force logo is a combination of bothβ¦
Not sure how they can just steal the Star Trek logo thoβ¦
The original NASA logo was the inspiration for the star trek insignia.
So really this is more like a nod to a nodder.
Sure, but compare NASA next to Starfleet / Star Trek next to Space Force. Two of them look remarkably similarβ¦
Youβre a nodder
Your mum's a nodder
And your children will be nodders!
(I read the whole exchange in Michael Caineβs voice.)
They're the US.
I might be mistaken but I think that the comparison is wrong. Starfleet and the federation are not the same.
We want the federation and we are getting the terrain empire.
We want starfleet and we are getting space force
We want the federation and we are getting the terrain empire.
Why not build the federation? If billionaires can get their city states, it should be possible to start something with those who want it and grow from there.
Earth is still not ready. If one other alien civilization started it and sowed up at our door, we word not qualify for membership. We are very far away from single world government and no wars / discrimination. It's not impossible but not something that can just be built.
Why focus on the single world government and no wars? The crucial part is the nondiscriminatory environment and the other startrek values.
Yeah. You are probably right. I just thougt that you cant have both of those without the nondiscriminatory environment
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