this post was submitted on 16 Sep 2024
0 points (NaN% liked)

Daystrom Institute

3878 readers
9 users here now

Welcome to Daystrom Institute!

Serious, in-depth discussion about Star Trek from both in-universe and real world perspectives.

Read more about how to comment at Daystrom.

Rules

1. Explain your reasoning

All threads and comments submitted to the Daystrom Institute must contain an explanation of the reasoning put forth.

2. No whinging, jokes, memes, and other shallow content.

This entire community has a “serious tag” on it. Shitposts are encouraged in Risa.

3. Be diplomatic.

Participate in a courteous, objective, and open-minded fashion. Be nice to other posters and the people who make Star Trek. Disagree respectfully and don’t gatekeep.

4. Assume good faith.

Assume good faith. Give other posters the benefit of the doubt, but report them if you genuinely believe they are trolling. Don’t whine about “politics.”

5. Tag spoilers.

Historically Daystrom has not had a spoiler policy, so you may encounter untagged spoilers here. Ultimately, avoiding online discussion until you are caught up is the only certain way to avoid spoilers.

6. Stay on-topic.

Threads must discuss Star Trek. Comments must discuss the topic raised in the original post.

Episode Guides

The /r/DaystromInstitute wiki held a number of popular Star Trek watch guides. We have rehosted them here:

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
 

Because of his original purpose, it makes sense that the Doctor wouldn’t have held a Starfleet rank during Voyager.

However, in Prodigy, he still doesn’t have pips. This leads to my questions:

  • Can a self-aware hologram hold rank or a non-com position in Starfleet?
  • If so, how would the Doctor attaib it?

According to the STO wiki, he doesn’t wear them by choice but does have a rank. That might be a reasonable explanation; I can’t imagine Janeway not at least trying to field commission him.

top 11 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I can’t imagine Janeway not at least trying to field commission him.

Cries in Ensign Kim

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

On one hand, (insert AGIMUS laughing noises).

On the other hand, Harry already had a rank where the doctor didn't.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I thought he was the commander of the Atlantis expedition.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I've never watched Stargate, except for the first film and a few random SG-1 episodes. I knew Sirtis was in it at some point, but not Picardo.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Connor Trineer (Trip) and Colm Meaney (O'Brien) playing villains too.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I like to play a game where if you see one Star Trek actor you often see others and you have to spot them.

Quite a few have been in CSI over the years.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Gargoyles (where Frakes and Sirtis are the main villains) even cracks a joke, "You and what Starfleet!"

I heard Takei and Frakes were on Adventure Time. After a Google, in addition, it seems so was Sirtis, Burton, and a bunch of Lower Decks actors.

Kate Mulgrew is great in Infinity Train.

I think one of my favorites, though, is the completely unrelated freebee for your cellphone randomly dropped for Kevin by Takei at the end of an episode of Community.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Who could stop Janeway from field commissioning him?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

The bor- no, no . . 8472? No wait.. her and Paris’ lizard kids coming to earth instinctively and for some reason hating the doctor?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Even without an official rank, on Voyager he was still considered a Department Head and (more importantly) the CMO, which gave significant authority (even exceeding the Captain on certain medical matters), regardless of whether or not he was ever given any pips. The same thing would likely apply on subsequent postings.

If he ever had to be assigned a rank for clerical/administrative purposes, it would probably be the default required rank for a Starfleet CMO candidate for the class of ship he was serving on.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Voyager's original CMO was a Lieutenant Commander, which is presumably pretty typical for a ship of Voyager's size. Bashir was commissioned as a Lieutenant Junior Grade to be the CMO on a backwater space station, so that's presumably the bare minimum.

I would expect the Doctor's first official rank (whatever that might be) to stick with him, plus promotion as appropriate. Adjusting it up and down based on posting would be a bizare thing to do for any other crewperson, and I'm sure The Doctor would object vigorously to such a thing.