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Summary

In his final hours as president, Joe Biden issued preemptive pardons to Dr. Anthony Fauci, retired Gen. Mark Milley, and members of the Jan. 6 Committee, aiming to shield them from potential retaliation by the incoming Trump administration.

Trump has hinted at targeting those who opposed him or investigated his actions.

Biden stressed that the pardons do not imply wrongdoing but protect reputations and finances from politically motivated investigations.

This unprecedented move reflects concerns about threats to democracy under Trump's return to power.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

Asking in genuine honestly and curiosity, accepting a pardon means agreeing that you were guilty of the crime.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burdick_v._United_States

As far as I know, they didn't commit a crime. Is this accepting admission of guilt?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

It doesn't matter, they will crucify Fauci if they want to, law and order aren't a part of the US

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Had to give Trump credit for baiting Biden into doing this. He just had to issue some empty threats, and in return, Biden gave him and his supporters endless ammunition...

Like, in today's America courts' decision hardly change people's mind anymore (see: Trump), what's the worst thing Trump can do? Put them in jail? If he did that to Fauci, we will see Fauci as a hero. Had Biden not pardon them, they might be prosecuted by the court, but now, they will definitely be prosecuted by the mob.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

I’m so burned out and weird that my first thought was “I hope this means that they can’t become subjects of an endless media circus while evil things are being done behind the back of the press.”

Perhaps the signal to noise ratio will be slightly improved.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 month ago (4 children)

I still don't know what Fauci did to have so much anger for him for this long lol.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Trump’s political game works by creating enemies. A virus is too abstract of an enemy, so instead he creates enemies of those adjacent. Fauci, China, WHO, governors of Democratic Party states etc.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

I still don’t know what Fauci did to have so much anger for him for this long lol.

Conservatives hate science and scientists. Think about how much anger conservatives had towards Galileo and Darwin.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 month ago

Uh he acknowledged facts and science above feeelings, duh.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago

The current right wing wave we are experiencing in the world is decidedly and aggressively anti-intellectual and anti-establishment. Fauci represents both of these.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Pardon won't protect them from legal harassment

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

That was the entire point of the pardon. To spare them the cost of wasting their money on lawyers. None of them were in danger of going to jail because none of them did anything illegal.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Wtf, a pardon allows you to commit crimes for the rest of your life?!?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

So then how would this help someone who hasn't been charged with any crimes?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Not sure what good that will do. Trump patently doesn’t give an F about law, only about how he thinks he’s being perceived. So if he can find a way to prosecute anyone, even of it’s just in the court of public opinion, in such a way that he thinks it makes him stronger and wrecks their lives he will do it.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

I'm sure idiots taking revenge on Fauci for, uh, following the science is going to really lower the costs of housing and groceries!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

I hope on his way out, Biden takes an old man taco shit in the private Oval Office washroom and doesn’t flush.

[–] [email protected] 50 points 1 month ago (3 children)

What a world we live in where we have to preemptively issue presidential pardons to people who have not only not committed any crimes but have served the public's interest for their entire lives

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago

Literally made their lives 1000x harder just because they were honest, dedicated, and tried to do the right thing. Going after them is despicable.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Welcome to donvict's Merica.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

It's un-be-lievable, quite honestly.

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