But the Fantastic Four had a great movie called "The Incredibles".
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I enjoyed Netflix' Avatar so much that I finally started the anime. The acting from basically all the children actors is atrocious but I just love the realism and animation of the worldbuilding that an anime just can't give me. Any plot points with minor characters are great and with the exception of Azula, the fire nation actors are great.
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Problem with Avatar adaptations is that even a really good one will be bad in context of a series that has 100% rating (99% audience score!) on Rotten Tomatoes.
You simply cannot improve on perfection.
I think the main problem is that they keep inviting the original creators, they sign on, the studio heads explain to the creators how the studio has figured out how to tweak things, creators say "your ideas are horrible and if you execute on them as you've described, everyone is going to hate it". The studio's refuse to budge, creators depart citing creative differences, studio gets their way. Is a steaming pile of shit. Rinse and repeat.
I heard the reason they left this time was because the showrunners wanted to basically recreate the series, and the original creators were like, “but.. we already made that series. Let’s make something new”.
Could be false though, because I don’t understand how they’d get so attached to the project knowing that it was supposed to be a live action remake from the start…
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The Netflix show wasn't bad. It just wasn't better than the original.
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Ember Island Players is my favorite episode. It's such a good capstone.
Slight difference between a tongue-in-cheek self-aware parody of your own creation, and an earnest and serious attempt at an adaptation that falls flat...
Yeah, you're not wrong but it's still a nice point to make. Maybe I should watch avatar again - it's been a while and I only saw it once, during lockdown...
The only adaptation I will accept is one where Dwayne Johnson is playing Toph.
All others are inferior.
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That play was pretty solid though, I'd watch it live.
HONORRRRRRrrrr
Is it bad? It’s bad isn’t it. I bet it’s bad.
It's not bad, it's certainly enjoyable.
My take: the original is the real story. The Netflix is a summary. They skip a lot, but it's only 8 episodes. The things they skip, I just remember "still happened". The things they merged/combined are just part of the summary.
You are able to like the Netflix, as long as you know it's not a replacement. Just enjoy the retelling, and seeing Uncle iroh as a real person!
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Meh. I'm enjoying it. It's extremely similar to the show, and they're really try to adopt a lot of the same jokes, scenes, and concepts from the cartoons.
I mean it's a kids show, a kid will absolutely love this. If you go into it expecting Avatar for adults you're going to be a bit let down.
I think this is why I take issue with these attempts at remaking the show. Even if it was a completely perfect recreation of the original, then why make it? I’d much rather see a different angle, something new. We already have so much substance in the original that trying to adapt it doesn’t make sense to me.
I always ask myself what a reboot is adding. And there’s just not a lot to add to Aang’s story that wasn’t already very well said in the original series.
I think aiming for something that’s just in the same universe could work really well, though. Maybe a focus on the other nations? Or follow one of the minor character paths that briefly cross with Aang? But trying to bring characters that we all know deeply and have a very specific expectation of just has such a low chance of hitting right that it baffles me they’ve tried twice now.
6 part docu-series about Omashu cabbage man and how Team Avatar has ruined his business
I would assume that if you are a big fan of the original, then a 1:1 live action remake is just not for you. It sounds like it would be more for the people who could not get into the original because of the animation.
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follow one of the minor character paths
Cabbage seller spinoff!
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It's acceptable if you don't have strong emotional ties to the original source material. Which I do.
Which is to say it's not good, but it's better than the movie that never happened.
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I didn't want it to be bad. But it's bad.
Mind giving a synopsis of why it's bad? I've not seen many people talking about it besides being mad that they changed things (and they said they would)
It's not so much that they changed things, if anything it's extremely faithful in the overall plot progression, it's mostly just... really shoddy.
Characters are devoid of any personality or life, the dialogue is some of the worst expository garbage I've ever had to endure, and they just keep missing the point of critical moments and character beats.
Like just to give an easy example, upon being told that he's the Avatar, Aang in this version does NOT run away. He just... goes on a little trip on Appa to lighten up, and it just so happens that this is exactly when the fire nation attacks, and he accidentally gets caught in a storm and gets trapped. Running away was key to his character, it's a crucial, character defining moment. It leads into his genuine feelings of guilt for abandoning the world, and his whole arc in the show is about slowly accepting the responsibility that terrified him back then.
And that just keeps happening, super important scenes like that get butchered for no reason, completely erasing the meaning behind them. It feels like they went about the show in a very utilitarian way, believing that as long as they could get the characters from point A to point B, it didn't matter what they changed. The original is so good at that, so good at symbolism, so consistent in its characterization that you're often able to predict how a given character will react because you know them so well.
I think that's what pissed me off the most, and combined with the goddawful dialogue (seriously I can't stress enough how bad the dialogue is), and a lot of gratuitous fanservice (lots of characters and scenes appear much earlier just to show them off lol), and you end up with a show that's extremely hard to sit through if you have any affection for the original.
I watched only the first episode and haven't watched the original in years. But the acting is really really bad. Totally stilted performance. And there are many instances of people exposition dumping their feelings instead of just showing them. And then these parts are underlined with cheesy flashbacks of bad exposition dumps in case someone didn't pay attention.
From what I’ve heard they removed important character traits from each protagonist. They took away Aang’s playfulness, Katara’s maturity and sense of responsibility, and Sokka’s growth arc.
Or for a quicker summary: they combined the Jet episode with the machinist and the secret tunnel.
They also seem to have removed all meaningful interaction between aang and katara in favor of exposition.
What kind of interactions are are going to be interesting between characters whose important traits have been removed?
None, of course, but it's through those interactions we learned about their personalities in the original. There's neither in this.
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