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Is the problem really one of salary when it comes to the suicide nets?
Are the workers driven to suicide for the low pay, or is this actually a matter of horrifyingly bad working conditions?
It's mostly a matter of statistics. Those factories don't have a higher risk of suicide than any other job, they just employ so many people that a few suicides a year is inevitable.
Well I guess a lot can change with money...
The worse people are payed, the more they are prone to exploitation no?
I mean, lots of comparatively wealthy people are under some pretty horrible working conditions, so I don't know that I would call the two tightly linked.
Sure, Foxconn should probably pay at rates that are livable for their workers, but the more acute problem is probably to not drive their workers so hard that they attempt suicide.
I upvoted this post from my name brand flagship phone.
What's this in reference to?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foxconn_suicides
They installed nets as one way to address the problem.
One thing I always feel should be pointed out is that Foxconn is enormous. When you look at the number of employees vs number of suicides, they're actually lower than the average company.
Yea, those nets are really working!
Traditional Slavery is cheaper than paying a wage, so is modern slavery
Time off is included in the living wage part -.- can't believe that needs to be said. These fucktards don't know how to maximize their wealth extraction. Motivated laborers will labor harder.
Foxconn: “We take offense to that. We make more than just phones. We also make TVs, PlayStations and EVs.”
We can just go ahead and put "society" at the bottom.
Living Wage?
How about Animal Cage?
This is the reason I imported a Fairphone 4 to the US (before they got a US vendor... Would not recommend it unless you want to work on your phone instead of having it just work (they are fine now, there is proper support, I just have the old hardware). Im functionally locked to T-mobile, it has very unusual issues when Im on a call while moving and it was a bit pricy for what you get. But all that was worth it to be able to say I have a smartphone where noone died while making it.
If you install nets just below rooftop edges to catch jumpers... What stops them jumping down to the net, then jumping from the net?
Suicide can often be a matter of convenience and impulse. Even putting pills in blister packs instead of bottles has been shown to reduce suicides by overdose. After England switched from coal gas to natural gas, not only did suicide by gas inhalation decrease, all suicides decreased.
Having nets will keep many people from even trying. Killing yourself is inherently irrational, folks contemplating doing it are rarely thinking pragmatically.
From what I've seen they kind of fall down into the net and it sinks, so it's pretty hard to climb up and over the edge. But I guess it's possible.
This meme implies they even considered the possibility of paying a fair wage.
And that the costs are the same. Nets are likely much more expensive than living wages.
Theyll spend a billion so we dont get an extra million
"Nets are likely more expensive than living wages" How do you figure?
More over, even if nets were less expensive than a living wage, how would that make the company any less evil?
Yeah the nets are cheap, what they'll spend on is union busting.
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