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If you don’t vaccinate your kids against dangerous diseases, you’re a dummy. Vaccines are safe and needed to keep EVERYONE safe from outbreaks.
Frankly, vaccination shouldn’t even be up for debate. The science speaks for itself. It’s infuriating that there are people who endanger their own child and others based on a poor grasp of science and medicine.
I am sure Jesus will protect them, don't worry.
Any of these kids vaccinated?
Even if they don't die now, there's complications that can kill them that happen 2 months later (for the more dangerous one), or 7-10 years later (for the sneaky one). Measles is a nasty virus and there's a long list of damn good reasons why everyone who possibly can should be vaccinated against it.
Is there any way to know if you've been vaccinated against it that doesn't cost an arm and a leg?
Search "{state} vaccination records" for every state you've (might) have received in it and hope you don't live in a shit hole state that doesn't maintain records
Getting a titer shouldn't be very expensive.
It's an employer obligation in certain healthcare industries, including working in a hospital for support staff.
Speaking of which, anyone working a terrible retail job should start applying to hospitals in their area, you'd be surprised how much better pay and benefits can be.
I would start with checking out your local health department, or potentially even Planned Parenthood or similar community clinics that offer low-cost primary care services.
I don't see why you couldn't just get vaccinated. No harm even if you were previously.
My mom's record keeping of my vaccinations as a kid was a shit show so I ended up just getting the ones I wasn't sure about later in life when I found out she might have skipped some 🙄
So people don't vaccinate their kids, and then they don't quarantine them when they are sick? What the fuck is broken in the US?
Society, maybe just empathy. A large percentage of the populace simply doesn’t care about anyone other than themselves.
There's certainly some of that, but I don't think it's as widespread as you think. I think the base problem is actually a breakdown in social trust.
Not everyone can be a doctor, or economist, or scientist. So we rely on experts to tell us what's up. The trust in the very idea of expertise has been eroded, in part due to legitimate fuckups by top officials, in part due to a rise in "Facebook experts" and conspiracy theories, and in part due to a concerted effort by conservatives to destroy that trust for their own gain.
Basically, these aren't people thinking "I don't care if these kids die." These are people thinking, "The medical establishment is full of liars and thieves, so these so called vaccines don't even work."
To piggy back on what you said, the distrust comes from the money. If you ask any of them they think the money leads other places. Which it does. So it just reinforces the distrust because we all know that there is funky healthcare costs. That insurance companies charge 500 dollars for an aspirin and they get it with medical billing.
I'm a victim of "chickenpox parties" from the 80s. Some parents are just stupid assholes that refuse to accept you don't have to make the immune system a punching bag to make it stronger
Now I'm at a higher risk for severe shingles. Yay!! Thanks mom!
The chicken pox vaccine was developed in Japan in 1974, but not available in the US until 1995.
That didn't make it ok to have kids hang out with a sick kid so they'd also get sick 😐
Having chicken pox is considerably more painful as a teenager and complications are more likely as an adult. I could easily see a pediatrician recommending this to a mom before school started so her kids don't miss any school.
It was during school and a pediatrician would never recommend something like this now lol. Plenty if medical professionals were against it at the time too. The vaccine was out by the time I was a teen. We could have waited it out.
I mean, that was the recommendation at the time. Chickenpox can be deadly to adults, and it was considered best to expose children to it when it wasn't life-threatening. This was well before there was a vaccine available, and letting your kid get the virus was basically like giving them an inoculation.
What's bullshit is that you can't get the shingles vaccine if you're under 55 (in the US.)
Is it that you can't, or insurance won't cover it?
It's indicated for patients 50 years old and older, or immunocompromised individuals 19 years old or older. You're gonna have a real hard time finding a doc who goes against the CDC guidelines.
Idk about chicken pox, but I know you can't get the RSV vaccine if you're not elderly or in a very specific window of pregnancy. Like 34 to 36 weeks. My OB was out of it, I missed the window and then none of the pharmacies would give it to me at 37 weeks, even though my OB still recommended it.
Thank god this could never happen in a first world country.
Florida reaps what it sows. Hahahah Hahaha
It's not those kids' fault and they're the ones suffering.
Hey on a side note I have no idea if I ever got my second shot as a kid. There is only a record of one shot and my mom can't remember. I have always figured that with herd immunity one would be good enough. Seeing that herd immunity is now in question I am wondering if I might need to re-up. Any have any experience with this? One or two shots? I will ask the doc next time, but in the meantime let's get some random inter-mation
In general, you need two doses, but as someone else mentioned, you can check your antibody status by having a titer drawn.
Just let your GP know. I recently got a blood test done to figure out what I've been immunised against. Highly recommend.
^This. You can get titers checked for all of your childhood vaccinations. Hep B is a good one to check because it doesn't always "stick" even when you get 2 doses as a kid. Almost every childhood vaccination can be given to adults with roughly equivalent effectiveness.
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I'm so sorry for the kids who are the victims of this insanity, and to some extent the victims of disinformation that created the situation even though they are dumb fucks. What a disaster. Children who aren't vaccinated because of disinformation should be taken by CPS for medical neglect IMO.
I might agree if CPS didn't have such horrible outcomes.
Eh well this is how it goes. People aren't really all that intelligent and we operate mostly of emotion, or rationalization.