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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I think I have enough capsaicin to kill a person. I don't know how to feel about that.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Damn, I can drink a lot more gasoline than I thought

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (4 children)

What's the denominator here? Like water is toxic at 90g/1kg, what's the other 910g? Because I definitely drink over a litre of water a day and I'm doing fine.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

If you weigh 100kg, drinking 90*100g=9kg of water produces a 50% chance of fatality. The definition of LD50 requires the dose to be given "all at once", and quite frankly, you would not be able to drink 9 liters of water all at once. LD50 becomes a lot less meaningful for anything where you would need an extreme concentration of the substance--e.g. THC is difficult to acquire in concentrations compatible with fatal overdose--or where consuming it at such quantities is simply infeasible.

People often say "consumed rapidly" but that phrasing doesn't really solve this problem with LD50 as a measure. Basically LD50 is meaningful near the bottom of this chart, less so near the top of this chart.

I'll note that another problem with LD50 is that it doesn't take into account serious harms that can occur with lower dosages. Drinking any amount of gasoline is likely to lead to serious brain damage, for example.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Everyone knows the LD50 is a binary condition! Either you live or you die! That's why I always dose just under the LD50 to make sure I never suffer any consequences.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And like you said, in what period of time?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's complicated. Short version, over a small amount of time.

In the case of water, how it kills you is by diluting your blood, basically. Your kidneys will be working extremely hard (and quickly) to empty out the excess water, so for the most part, you've got to drink much faster than your kidneys can work.

That said, it's not just speed - other stuff gets cleaned out with your urine, like certain vitamins and such. Drinking excess water over a long time, but significantly more than what's on the chart, will drain you of certain nutrients / electrolytes, and that'll screw you, too.

Drinking sports drinks in that quantity could actually sidestep that particular problem, drastically raising the amount of water you can take in.

One way or another, though, while it's possible to hurt or kill yourself from drinking too much water, you have to bring it to some serious extremes and your body should be vehemently complaining during this process.

If ever you think you're doing something extreme and might possibly be slightly risky in this regard, just drink some electrolyte heavy stuff instead for a while - Gatorade, Powerade, etc. Then your only risk is basically outrunning your kidneys and your stomach should really be making you throw up if you try that.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's per kg of body weight. So if you weigh 80kg (176lbs) then rapidly drinking 7.2L of water has a 50:50 chance to kill you - I think.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I believe it's body weight, so if you weighed 200lb (~90kg) you'd have to drink 8100g of water to possibly die and you have to drink it fast and not pee it out. There was a woman several years back that did die from this, a radio station did a contest "hold your wee for a wii"

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

Water is toxic without you needing to rupture your bladder. I've experienced water toxicity before, it gives you a headache and makes you disoriented.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Why omit fentanyl? It should be pretty high in the rankings. Also curious about puffer fish.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This "cool guide" is trash and shouldn't be taken seriously.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (4 children)
  • It is not a guide, I agree
  • It is not trash: there are flaws in the presentation but all data is accurate. You need to read and understand the top text to interpret it correctly.
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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

Challenge accepted

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

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0.59 g/kg

Looks like I can barely survive mine

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Where's the 55th substance?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

Behind you. Look out!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

...the friends we made along the way?

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Technically speaking, if the water is pure enough it can demineralize you and kill you over the course of about a week. UPW or HPW are often used to describe these substances, created in specialized labs or equipment for industry use.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Is that actually true? I've looked this up a while and it said it's basically overblown or urban myth (wiki). Basically we've been drinking rainwater forever (I know it's not pure) and you get so much stuff through food that it might lead to deficiency but not quickly.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

When I worked in a lab, I'd always fill my water bottle from the nanopure machine because it was tasty and made me feel fancy.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Who needs all those nasty salts in their blood anyway. Bloody sodium channels.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

You will get enough sodium in your food anyway. If you're literally not eating, then yes you will need it in water or tablets.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ingesting gasoline is deadly in far smaller doses due to something called hydrocarbon pneumonia. My dad very nearly died as a result of having a tiny amount get past his throat while siphoning gas to a small engine's tank.

If you must siphon gas, go buy a cheap "pump siphon" from Canadian Tire.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

I dont have any canadian tire near me as I live in europe. What do you advice?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

This is what I was referring to. There are a number of variations on the theme.

If you are really in a pinch:

  1. Feed a length of hose into the source until only a small amount is left clear of the liquid.

  2. Put your thumb over the exposed end, or otherwise make the end as close to airtight as possible.

  3. Rapidly pull the hose out of the liquid, moving the end down to the destination container. The end must be below the top surface of the source, the further the better.

  4. Release your thumb/seal. If you've done it all correctly, the hose will be nearly filled with liquid and enough of it will be below the surface of the source to start the siphoning process.

If the source liquid is too far below the opening for this to work with the length of hose you have, you can manually pump it far enough to start a siphon, by rapidly submerging and lifting the hose while alternating the closing of the top. Open top while submerging, closed top while lifting. You have to push down faster than what gravity pulls the liquid back down. Ideally, you're lifting fast enough to get some help from the liquid's own inertia when you reverse course.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

Start booking flights to Canada

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

Just siphon direct, your free health care will keep you safe.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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