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[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago

It won't hurt her at all. Haley is the emergency replacement for Convicted Sex Offender Treason Trump and the automatic frontrunner for 2028 with Trump in prison and everybody trying to forget him.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

The only reason people like Haley stay in a race is because they are maximizing their donation time period...resulting in a massive cash cow of a resource to be used virtually for anything thereafter.

Haley has made millions. If it wasn't for Trump, nobody would care about her but more importantly...her donations would be a fraction of what she has now. She knows this and is pretending to fight against Trump but in reality... it's about her bank account balance.

If the laws were changed, there wouldn't be anyone staying in a race after their clear defeat. But since the laws allow a person to accept donations regardless and bank those donations....it's a fast track to piles of cash.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago

Disagree. She'll spend more than she'll get and put a target on her back in the mean time with trumps base.

What she's hoping is that trump goes to prison before the election and she's the only viable Republican still standing. She knows she'd win head to head vs Biden. As a woman she's sees herself as maybe enough to mitigate women leaving the GOP over abortion.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

It only hurts her if Trump wins the presidency. She looks like the future of the party, or at least a 50/50 shot against DeSantis, if Trump loses. The 2nd place finisher in the Republican primary seasons historically became the nominee 4 years later.

Then there's also the possibility Trump gets disqualified, has some sort of bad health event/dies of old age, or gets convicted and loses enough support to cause a convention revolt. That's like a 5% chance combined, but Haley basically moonwalks to the presidency in those cases.

So like a 50% chance of having a good shot in 2024, and a 5% chance to outright become president. And all it costs is some Never Trump billionaires money and a coinflip chance she'll have to spend 4 years on the corporate circuit making millions of dollars to give speeches about perseverance. That's not a bad spot to be in.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 7 months ago (1 children)

well, she's automatically 'next in line' if the other one were to become ineligible.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

Why, is there some sort of Supreme Court case on that exact issue still pending?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago

Doubt. She can become another fucktard pundit. Shit, she can run 3rd party and single-handedly save the republic from trump.

[–] [email protected] 61 points 7 months ago (2 children)

There is no "long-run" for the Republican party. Haley isn't even a Republican at this point, she's just the non-Trump pick. The Republican party is becoming the Trumplican party. The two party system is shaking a bit.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago

The two party system is shaking a bit.

If we can manage not to fall into a hellish fascist dystopia, that would be a good thing.

[–] [email protected] 51 points 7 months ago (5 children)

She's staying in the race just in case Trump is found ineligible to run. That way she gets to be the one remaining option. Happy to let her be a spoiler candidate if Trump makes it to the general, though.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

I'm registering as R in my state's primary just to take a vote away from Trump.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Hey wouldn't he try to push Mercedes as a 3rd party then? Plenty of Q's would answer the call

[–] [email protected] 20 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I could see her thought process being something like:

  1. Stay in and get as much good will as she can.

  2. Trump is found ineligible or something

  3. Haley wins primary by default

  4. Haley props up trump as a martyr and promises to pardon him or some shit if she wins

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)
  1. Makes him vice president

  2. Steps down

  3. Trump is new dictator

  4. US becomes easternmost part of russia

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

Hey, didn't Germany fall to Hitler in a similar way.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

The Republican Convention this year is going to make 1968 Chicago look like a quinceañera.

Edit: Oh god, it's in Milwaukee. That's like seceding from the Union and then putting your new capitol city 100 miles from Washington DC.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

These people are nothing if not "traditionalists". I'm sure it's so they don't have to think.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 7 months ago

Not to mention, trump’s hold on the party is… not as solid as he pretends. It’s far from a landslide.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Nikki Haley loses a primary state to former President Donald Trump, appears on stage the night of the loss, and, in a fist-pumping speech, vows she will fight on.

As the fight drags on, Haley's confronted with more and more unpleasant theories, including that she's primarily drawing support from Democrats who are crossing over in their state's primaries.

This week, she faced questions about whether she would join a so-called unity ticket with Democratic primary contender Rep. Dean Phillips, something she told Fox News on Friday she’d decline.

In November, 43% of GOP primary voters held Haley in a positive light, and 17% had a negative opinion of her, according to an NBC News poll.

But in January’s national NBC News poll, 34% of Republican primary voters saw Haley in a positive light, versus 36% who had a negative opinion of her.

While campaigning for his father in South Carolina this week, Donald Trump Jr. charged that Haley was staying in only for her own benefit, in hopes of cashing in after she’s out of the race.


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