Ok, me and my wife are doing a re watch. I loved TNG and other Star Trek growing up, future is made great through tech, utopia is possible, go humanity, etc.
Wife's watching the series. I dip in from time to time, I know some spoilers and how some characters are, but can't remember a single plot all the way through. We watched the Pegasus (S7E12).
Like, it completely ruined Star Trek. Humanity and the federations before that point are going into all interactions with aliens, and we always assume they're the good guys, always acting on good faith, the frustrations they have with other species is because the other species don't believe how nice they can be, earth has no problems of racism or hunger or fucking whatever.
And then, no, we have clandestine , backstabbing stuff, fully known by the federation, covered up, everyone hushed, the research discontinued, but searched for so it can be dug up again. That research, which was done in direct, knowing violation of a peace treaty they cobbled together with the Romulans, which have been the semi bad guys in various episodes.
Well, if the fucking federation are known, lying backstabbing, black ops using, pride and wrath addled assholes, I also would look at them with distrust. No wonder the Ferengi don't want to join the Federation, of course the Cardassians are attacking on the borders.
Every time they go to a space bar and dig around for information, all the other aliens are wearing some personable clothing with their own customs and history woven into the fabric, when these squares rock up wearing a space potato sack, talking about the greater good. Fuck off you Maoist assholes.
I love the series and the morals, but the worldbuilding is fucking destroyed with this episode. I assume this is what gives way to the section 31 film and all that.
I'd love to hear some counterarguments. I loved seeing Star Trek as a utopia, and with humanity being their best with great leadership. I want to go back to that point of view.
PS : Also, Picard says to decloak right in front of the romulan warbird, then they never show that conversation. I want to know how he talked his way out of that one, and the rammifications. We're about to watch sub rosa, and I am looking forward to the source of all the beverly ghost fucker memes.
Please, do some sort of text based let's watch of Sub Rosa. Don't take time to recover, just post it, stream of consciousness
Sub rosa is "so bad you can make fun of it"
It's not even star trek, but at least it doesn't harm the canon. It's another "Beverly is a dumb ass" ep. Scooby Doo in fake Scotland. I'm surprised they resisted making space bagpipes, and I found groundskeeper Willie hilarious.
They tried to sci fi it right at the end, anphasic matter bs.
I expected geordi to end up doing "my VISOR! I can't see anything without my VISOR!"
I'd love to but we have little time with a baby, studying for certificates, exercise, couples time etc, but will tell you my thoughts since you're curious.
The wife and I thought the episode where she illegally disected the ferengi scientist was stupid, either from writing or character perspective, but it didn't ruin the show since it's one ep/character, so more stupid Beverly isn't going to be as bad for me as this one was.
Sub Rosa always gets my nacelles humming and ready to warp.