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[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I think they'll find few of them will take that offer, given the CCP's intolerance to dissent. I'd also guess rich internationals will just go somewhere else, while poor internationals won't be able to go without the kind of generous financial aid top American universities offer.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

International students generally are ineligible for pretty much all financial aid. There arent actually any “poor” international students who are benefiting from financial aid.

I went to a need-based aid school, like the way Harvard and many top institutions especially are (not that mine was one of those, but still). All of our international students were the only ones ineligible for need-based money. The international students had to pay full tuition, often on tighter timeframes than even full-payer Americans did.

The reality is that cutting out international students actually harms an institution’s ability to provide aid to American students. They get charged full tuition for a multitude of reasons, but partly to fund need based aid for Americans

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

International students generally are ineligible for pretty much all financial aid.

Nope. Top American universities are pretty generous—probably the most generous among first-world countries—with need-based aid for undergrad internationals if you can get in (which is expectedly more difficult than for domestics). I know a few people in top American universities with full or near-full rides, most relevantly including one in Harvard, so yeah they exist. Of course most internationals are still filthy rich full-payers, but technically it's not all filthy rich full-payers.

The reality is that cutting out international students actually harms an institution’s ability to provide aid to American students.

Definitely true.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago

The US is making itself more radioactive than Chernobyl. Nobody wants to visit any more, let alone invest in an education dictated by your rapist in chief.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Tbh, we're not doing a lot better in terms of only allowing state-approved dissent. We night have slightly different vehicles and methods so we can still keep up appearances, but the real dissidents still get 360 no scoped by the FBI or harassed by the fascist public-private cooperative. That trend is only getting worse under Trump's guidance, paired with the endless Republican simpering for him and a democratic party that fights its activists harder than it fights the opposition.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago

Yeah definitely true, but this stuff is more relevant for people who actively try to be a thorn in the government's side, like lefties or dedicated pro-Palestine activists. The average prospective international student isn't that so they can easily get by (of course this doesn't apply to the current admin), while on the other hand I simply wouldn't feel safe in a place where mildly politically charged comments about food prices or the job market can get me rounded up and interrogated, or where I don't know which of my classmates or colleagues is a government informant. More than political freedom the personal safety guaranteed by that political freedom (even if, as you said, it's just keeping up appearances) is what's at stake here.