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This is the thing I’ve never understood. If we were truly concerned about undocumented workers taking jobs and resources, the logical solution would be to go after the companies employing them. But we’re not concerned with that. It’s always just a bad faith argument that boils down to plain old racism.
That's why the rhetoric is shifting from "they're taking our jobs" to "they are all violent murders and rapists".
It seems like a you've understood it just fine
They are, but not enough. Recently two companies, ACSI and Durable Inc, were fined for hiring illegals. ACSI was charged $2m and Durable 200k. Donnie needs to step it up and charge every company that uses exploited labor.
Rounding errors for these companies. And most likely they were de facto fines for not donating enough to Republican candidates.
They illegally immigrated, they are illegal immigrants. No thesaurus contains the words to change reality.
What word should I use to virtue signal so you feel better reading?
Undocumented immigrant? Immigrating without documents is an illegal act, making them an illegal immigrant.
Undocumented migrant? That is someone who illegally enters the country to work for a period and return home, with no intention of permanent residence, making them an illegal migrant.
Undocumented Refugee? That is an illegal act of immigration.
Undocumented Asylum Seeker? That is an illegal act of immigration.
How will me using softer language make the situation better for illegals? It won't make companies stop exploiting them. It won't give them citizenship. It won't stop them from risking deportation.
This is a meme thread ffs.
Lots of people break laws but we don't start identify people as "jaywalking citizens" just because they jaywalked.
So they are here illegally, better people have done worse things.
I think "undocumented" is a much less loaded term.
And the longest post I’ve run into so far is you being angry that somebody suggested using nice language when talking about large groups of humans.
^ And this is why liberals so goddamned always lose.
"Fascism is here, now, today. We have to fight, and that means preparing for violence because it will to that."
"NOOAAWW! You used a BAD word! STOP!"
When the trains arrive, be aware, you're not going to get your choice of gendered potty, probably have to shit where you stand. And stand in it. Feel free to police the language of everyone around you though!
You gotta give it to conservatives! At least their messages are on point and they stick together. Meanwhile, liberal's squabbling about, whatever boolshit it is today...
These a word for people who underestimate the importance of words: idiot.
They're not disagreeing, nor withholding support because of a word, so your argument does not apply.
Politely pointing out that a word is dehumanizing is completely valid and we should all strive to be more compassionate with our language.
It does matter.
two things can be true.
yes, liberals are heinous with their policing of certain words, particularly when there are much bigger issues to address.
also, yes, calling people illegals is also dehumanizing. no human is illegal on stolen land.
Two companies of tens or hundreds of thousands. And for those two, how much money did they make off the backs of illegal workers? I'm willing to bet significantly more than they were fined.
Edit: at least for Durable Inc, according to Ice, who is is probably going to want to appear tough rather than dow playing it, this is the second time they've been fined and their workforce is 92% illegal workers (roughly 53 legal workers, 604 not). If they're not bankrupted by having, 92% illegal workers, clearly its just a tax, not a punishment or attempt to stop them.
That's nothing. Like, less than $350 per person. They're laughing their way to the bank.
There are more companies that have been fined recently, I was just giving those two examples of it happening.
The thing is about the fines, they are low, but companies that depend on exploiting illegals can't survive without that cheap labor with their business model. So either they adjust and are good boys and girls, or they go bankrupt. I would rather have a business come into compliance at a higher price point, but going under is the market excising a tumor. So the fines being lower than lethal has a potential upside that creates jobs for citizens.
But that would include his own companies...
Does he employ illegals?
He 100% did he tried to "purge" some in 2019 to avoid public scrutiny but it was widely reported that he did.
Haven't seen any recent reports on it but yeah, we can assume that if he can make sure the public doesn't know about it, he does still or will do it again, as soon as he can.