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[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 days ago (2 children)

there's a word for those people: awesome

windows xp was peak; running anything before xp is legendary

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

Idk, it was horrendously insecure, would freeze a lot, and missing creature comforts like window tiling.

Tbh I think you're letting nostalgia blind you to XP's flaws a little.

If they kept refining Win7 it would've been great.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (3 children)

Idk, it was horrendously insecure, would freeze a lot, and missing creature comforts like window tiling.

It was significantly more secure than it's DOS-based predecessor of the time, Windows ME (that's a whole other rabbit hole; if you wanna talk insecure and buggy as fuck - look no further). That's what people don't realize, they look at the past through a modern lens. You gotta look at it from the time it was released. There's a reason mainstream consumer-focused Windows editions dropped DOS and moved to the NT kernel. XP was the first real consumer version of Windows based on ~~XP~~ NT.

If they kept refining Win7 it would've been great.

They did, it was called "Windows 8" and nobody liked it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I'm not looking at it through a modern lense. It was very insecure at the time, too. I worked in a PC repair shop and at the time that business was a money printer in terms of getting rid of endless malware.

Later versions of windows cleared up the horrendous security to such an extent that the shop was no longer economically viable, and we had to close.

XP was not the first consumer version based on NT, I don't know why you think that.

Although yes, the DOS versions were even worse. Well, in theory anyway. In practice not, since most people at that time didn't have PCs that old connected to the internet.

They did, it was called "Windows 8" and nobody liked it.

I would not consider Win8 a "refinement" of Win7 lol, they changed the entire UX, added an app store they tried to force people into, created a new executable format, etc.

Windows 8 is basically the polar opposite of a "refinement" release!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

But before ME there was Windows 2000, with its particularly gorgeous spin of the classical design, and other than appearance - being kinda same as XP, but faster.

XP was the first real consuner version of Windows based on XP.

On NT you mean, and no, W2K was a consumer system.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

XP was the first real consuner version of Windows based on XP.

On NT you mean

Whoops! Yes, NT.

But before ME there was Windows 2000, with its particularly gorgeous spin of the classical design, and other than appearance - being kinda same as XP, but faster.

[...]

and no, W2K was a consumer system.

W2K was most definitely not built with consumers in mind; the base edition was "Professional" and was meant to be a workstation OS. It was a bit of an oddball in that a not-insignificant amount of power users preferred it at home over 98/Me - but it was a business-oriented system first and foremost. XP added a lot of features over 2000, including more consumer-oriented tools and applications. That's why I specified XP as "the first real consumer version".

Personal anecdote: When I was in jr high, the "family PC" was a Toshiba laptop loaded with W2K, and compared to the W98 system we had before, 2000 was certainly not meant for "regular" home users. That's what Me was supposed to be, but we all know how that went... IMO, I'm almost certain that the downfall of Me, paired with W2K being as good as it was at the time, was part of the driving force for MS to base future consumer versions on the NT kernel.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago

But this article is talking about people running Windows 7 today, so comparing current actions through a modern lens is entirely valid

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Technically, they did, and it was not great.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

You consider Win8 a refinement of Win7?

To me refinement means small changes to make something better. It doesn't mean completely changing the entire UX.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

I ran Linux 1994ish. Amiga OS before. Amstrad CPC 464 before. A friend ran Sinclair ZX-80, that was the first system I had access to.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

aside from radio shack and texas instruments that i used at camp, i think i was sadly too young to do anything but windows 3.1 :( our first computer was a tandy sensation in the early 90s and i didn't really play with linux until maybe the mid 2000s

except for playing with apple IIe and radio shack computers through school and camp, that is.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

TRS-80 and TI 99/4A presumably?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

i'm pretttyyyyy sure this one is the one we had at camp :)

"an old Tandy/Radio Shack TRS-80 model III computer

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

What luxury, it came with floppy drives!