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[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

So "contextualizing" is "hiding a big number behind a bigger number"?

Also, yeah, the initial announcements had a number of around 3.5k police officers busybodied with this stuff.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

You didn't just "contextualize." You minimised the number: "Yeah, that totally sounds like a lot in a country of 84m. /s" Those are your words, verbatim.

It was 3,000 officers. Germany has 333,000 full time officers. That's 0.9% of the force. Hardly grossly disproportionate to the benefit. There are undoubtedly far less "efficient" endeavours they use police resources on. The clearance rate for burglary in Germany, for example, was 19.5% in 2001. If we extend your logic, police should just stop investigating burglaries. I might even agree. I consider catching smugglers and terrorists more important.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

You didn't just "contextualize." You minimised the number: "Yeah, that totally sounds like a lot in a country of 84m. /s" Those are your words, verbatim.

Oh dear. Is this "argument" anything but bad faith? I basically said that that is a normal-enough number in a country of 84m.

It was 3,000 officers. Germany has 333,000 full time officers. That's 0.9% of the force. Hardly grossly disproportionate to the benefit.

It seems to me that 0.9% is 50% larger than 0.6%, so dunno about that. And it's not just any police, as far as I am aware, it's Federales rather than low-level local trainees.

If we extend your logic, police should just stop investigating burglaries. I might even agree.

That's awfully sweet of you, given how you apparently just came up with "my logic".

I consider catching smugglers

You do realize that "smuggler" most likely primarily refers to people who bought more cigarettes in Poland/Czechia than the legal limit allows, right?

I am very anti-smoking but finding small-time tobacco tax evaders wouldn't be a priority to me. Especially since Germany still allows cigarette ads in POS locations and cigarette giveaways on festivals.

and terrorists more important.

Now, you've mentioned "terrorists" a number of times. The report speaks only of "extremists", i.e. people holding extreme world views who likely acted out on demonstrations or are otherwise accused of a smaller crime.

Where do the terrorists you mention come from?