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By grifters you mean the only people willing to say that it's okay for men to be men? Gee, I wonder why young men go to them rather than the ones telling them to man down.
No. We mean people like andrew tate. These guys aren't men, They're assholes. They don't teach you how to be "men", they teach you how to be assholes.
No real man thinks he's "high-value" and definitely doesn't think women are worth less or deserve to be treated like shit.
That's not real men, that's assholes.
And yes, I'm gatekeeping the term "Man".
I'm not defending Andrew Tate here. My point is that when there is nobody else for these young men to look up to then they go to the only ones available.
Name one good male role model you approve of.
Bob Ross
Steve Irwin
Bill Nye
Alton Brown
Sam Reich
Brenon Lee Mulligan
Ify Nwadiwe
Matt Mercer
Jazza (Josiah Alan Brooks)
Likely your dad/uncle/older brother, or a friend's dad/uncle/older brother
A teacher
Just from the top of my mind I find Hank Green to be a pretty good role model
Those grifters are also misandric, e.g: pro-draft
The point is that who do you expect the young men to go to? The only people willing to speak up for them are the types of Andrew Tate, Joe Rogan, Jordan Peterson, Jocko Willink, David Goggins etc. Can you name a male role model you approve of?
Trevor from CityCrusher, Prometheus or superman
You kidding, right? I almost said that Aragorn doesn't count as they're a fictional character.
Fictional or not, you copy their virtues. Men need role-models that will not use & discard them (like Andrew Tate)
It’s not okay to harass women. Stop defining that as a male feature. Gross.
Don't act as if I said somethig I didn't only because it's then easier to argue against.
The shark was harassing her.
She said stop in animal language.
If you are personalizing this: you are the problem. You are not a victim.