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[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Is paying attention to whether you are staring too difficult?

Is being honest too difficult? There is no room to have a conversation here with how you're presenting things. This isn't just "don't stare" and you presenting it as such is arguing in bad faith. What was said, incase you somehow forgot what you yourself wrote was

Just avoid looking at anyone for longer than a second or two, but don’t try to look like you are avoiding looking at anyone. If in close proximity, acknowledge their existence and then focus on something else. If they start conversing, reciprocate but do not try to keep the conversation going if it trails off. If they don’t appear to open to a conversation and you are in close proximity, a small nod to indicate you noticed them and then changing your focus is a really good way to indicate you noticed them, but are not interested in interacting with them.

Man, seems like it's more than just not staring to me. You actually call out " don’t try to look like you are avoiding looking at anyone" which is the opposite of staring. So you need to look at them, but not too much, just the magical right amount that you should know.

Is being aware that initiating or dragging out conversations with women you don’t know often comes across as intimidating too difficult to understand?

Nah, but I should be able to just keep to myself and not have a conversation without being treated like a predator for it. Again, you're being extremely dishonest in how you frame things. You wrote the whole list of things you think people should do and now you act like "it's just two simple things" ignoring what you wrote. Hell, I'd think these two message were written by two different people they're so disconnected.

There isn’t a less complicated answer.

JFC. You waffle so often I don't think you even know what you mean. " Is paying attention to whether you are staring too difficult?" also "it's a complicated answer." So why did you frame it like it was just two simple things when you know it's a complex answer? Because you're being dishonest.

This shouldn't be a complex answer. The answer should be "don't treat people like shit without knowing them." That should be the answer. Not a list of magical rules every man has to follow just to make sure they get treated like a human.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Nah, but I should be able to just keep to myself and not have a conversation without being treated like a predator for it.

Oh no! Society is judging you unfairly because of your outward appearance? Gee, that almost sounds like the flip side of what the women are complaining about. Sucks, don't it?

The answer should be “don’t treat people like shit without knowing them.” That should be the answer.

That's not going to work until everybody does it, which means the real answer is "actively work to stop other people from treating people like shit," and even more specifically, "understand who the aggressors and victims are so you don't make the problem worse by attacking people who are just trying to defend themselves."

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

You sound mad at me for saying that I should be treated fairly. Women also deal with it yes. But I don't get why you feel the need to attack me for bringing it up. I'm sure you get upset if someone attacked a woman for being asked to be treated fairly.

You seem very angry at the world to the point where you are attacking people who want to be your allies and want the same thing. You even say "don't make the problem worse by attacking people who are just trying to defend themselves" yet here you are with a sarcastic "oh no" and attacking me for literally just saying I want to be treated like a human. The hypocrisy is wild...

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 day ago

You sound mad at me for saying that I should be treated fairly. Women also deal with it yes. But I don’t get why you feel the need to attack me for bringing it up. I’m sure you get upset if someone attacked a woman for being asked to be treated fairly.

"Men need to get treated fairly too" is the gender equivalent of "white lives matter." It's tone-deaf at best, and more likely deliberately dishonest punching down. Just because a statement is true when considered alone, that doesn't mean the purpose of saying it can't be in bad faith when considering context. And that's exactly what's happening here.

You aren't the victim here, and you know it. How do I know you know it? Because I'm also a man and I know I'm not the victim here either. As a man, I can authoritatively say that men are getting exactly the treatment we deserve. If we don't like it, it's on us to change our collective behavior. Period.