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[–] [email protected] 31 points 22 hours ago (8 children)

China scientists

So, Chinese scientists?

[–] [email protected] 20 points 13 hours ago
[–] [email protected] 8 points 14 hours ago (3 children)

Probably because is an ethnicity and nationality. There are ethnic Chinese people all over the world and a few countries and regions are made of a majority of ethnic Chinese but are not related to China. Calling them the same thing is playing into the PRC's "all ethnic Chinese pledge their allegiance to China" nonsense.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Isn't that true for every (older) country though?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 hours ago

Perhaps but I haven't encountered that myself. I'm ethnic Chinese that's a citizen of another ethnic Chinese majority nation so I've encountered this specific type a lot more.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 hours ago

Isreal like that game of pretend. They believe anti zionist Jews are traitors.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

It's a reasonable assumption that someone in China is Chinese.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 12 hours ago

The reverse, however, isn't true. It may be somewhat understandable but not entirely reasonable to assume someone who is Chinese is from China which is what I'm trying to say.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

I think it's a slightly different connotation. "China scientists" infers scientists residing in China while not presuming their ethnicity, while "Chinese scientists" implies their ethnicity but not their location.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

You literally never hear "America scientists" even if some of them might be from another country. Same with every single other country I can think of, except China.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 hours ago

US scientists works in the same way.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 20 hours ago

Real talk, why is discussion around people and subjects in China so fucking weird?

If it's not referring to the entire population when it only applies to the government or a subset of them as a global "the Chinese" or doing silly shit like "China scientists" everyone's grammatical skills suddenly tank when even broaching a topic even tangential to the PRC.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 21 hours ago

No, it's people who study fine tableware.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 22 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 21 hours ago
[–] [email protected] 19 points 22 hours ago

No they are people who study the China Science.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

Seriously, for me a "China scientist" is someone doing research on China, like a space scientist would do research on astronomy and similar. But I'm not a native English speaker, so, idk

[–] [email protected] 1 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Someone doing research on China is a chiologist.

Same as someone doing research on biology is a biologist.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 12 hours ago

Biology -> biolog -> biologist

China -> chin -> chinist?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 19 hours ago

The wording of the headline would be different if it were trying to convey that.