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I've been trying to find a good Marxist instance, but Lemmygrad and Hexbear are widely hated. Why is that? Are there any good leftist instances?

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Lemmygrad and Hexbear are cool. IDK why you wouldn't like them if you're a leftist.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I'm a leftist that doesn't like hanging with racists and totalitarians, that's why I don't like them.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

You're on itjustworks, you're not a leftist, you're a social fascist.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You realise that the instance has open registration that doesn't require a specific political allegiance? I'm on it because it's local, I would have chosen any other local instance if it wasn't this one.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Your gaslighting tactics aren't going to work here.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I don't think you even know what "totalitarianism" is. You know why? Because that term doesn't mean anything. It was popularized by Hannah Arendt, an academic author indirectly associated with the CIA (as thoroughly discussed by Frances Stonor Saunders in her book The Cultural Cold War). The term was used in the context of the Cold War to promote the idea that the Soviet Union and Nazi Germany were the same thing or very similar. It served the interests of the US and Western European countries.

Now to call our userbase racist, I would expect at least further explanation. We have very strict moderation, and racist garbage is severely dealt with. So if you seen someone being racist in Lemmygrad, please let me know. I'm an admin there, and we could quickly resolve this. If you haven't, then you should quietly think with yourself why you are lying to others here. You hate us based on a lie?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Hexbear in particular has been annoying in the past with nonsense comments from users there, and so many unhelpful replies that are just a tiny animated image and nothing else. I'm not even sure they actually are leftist as much as just trolls a lot of times, so I've blocked the instance in general so that serious leftist conversations aren't being drowned out by that nonsense.

If it looks like someone from hexbear (such as yourself here) is making a real contribution then I'll reveal that comment and engage. It's a shame there are so many goofballs on that instance, apparently. Maybe their moderation has improved though?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Not to mention that before federating, hexbear always had a soft aura of antisemitism floating around it. They've cleared house of it since but I remember wondering why they were so disproportionally vitriolic about Trotsky until I learned he was Jewish, then it all started to click.

Honestly I wouldn't even be remotely surprised if I found out in a couple decades that website was run as controlled opposition. Feels like everything there is designed to either placate or turn people away from communism rather than push them towards understanding it. Compare it to Lemmygrad where they'll reach a hand out to help reactionaries be less reactionary but on hexbear they just post a picture of a pig shitting on its balls and hurl harassing comments their way as if that's somehow going to make them any less anticommunist. (and as a fine bonus, all those comments boosts their reactionary bullshit to the top of the federation for everyone to see)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

I'm glad you view my instance in a more positive light, and I can't comment on early Hexbear culture, but I am still so very confident, absolutely positive, that the hate you're seeing for Trotsky is not because of his religion.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Opposing a settler colonial, apartheid State, which has been ethnically cleansing for three generations and is committing genocide as we speak, is not a “soft aura of antisemitism”.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Obviously not, i'm talking about the people there who were using the leftist environment to shield their actual antisemitism. That shit's been since wiped off the platform but that wasn't the case back when I was there.

You know the kind. The ones who would call them "Jews" rather than "Zionists" where if it was posted on reddit nobody would have trouble seeing the antisemitism for what it was but because it was hexbear it obfuscated their actual intentions. Outright antisemitism would get punished pretty hard which is why it's a soft aura, since it just kinda hung around in the background seeing how much it could get away with. The mods/admins tendency to just ban people who went against the grain resulted in that shit being passively protected for years until the federation forced them to be at least somewhat accountable where blatantly silencing criticism wasn't going to fly anymore.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Oh, thanks. I’m glad I got to the party late then!