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This is fundamentally no different than making fun of someone for obvious plastic surgery. Choices were made.
This guy is clearly choosing to look like this.
You shouldn’t make fun of those people either…
So... if someone can't help how they look then you shouldn't shame or mock them but if you choose to look a particular way then get fucked? That is a truly fucked up moral to try and proclaim. That it is totally acceptable to mock someone for their looks as long as they've chosen to look that way.
What a shitty, fucked up and miserable little world you must live in. Why don't you show us what you look like? I'm curious what decisions you've made. I mean... fair is fair. Right?
Yep.
It's funny how you're acting superior but have no problem judging the world I must live in as being shitty.
The difference between you and I is that I don't lie to myself. It's a subtle difference but actually leads to living in a world that is less shitty.
Maybe one day you can join me but you'll need to let go of that gate your keeping yourself behind.
Also, by this logic trans people should get mocked because they made those choices to their bodies and it's outside those norms, but i thought we were trying to be more accepting
Well yes. Because Im judging the world you live in, not you. I'm saying that if you go around doing this, you're going to see nothing but misery and contempt everywhere you go. You on the other hand are openly mocking a person. There is a difference between these two. Should I get the crayons to help out on that explanation? And if you want to whine that I'm not being nice to you, you broke the social contract and decided that it's okay to mock people to make the world better. I'm just using your rules.
Ahhhh, my mistake. Sorry. I didn't realize that attacking people for how they look actually makes the world less shitty. Makes total sense.
Brother, you are openly judging someones appearance and saying you're allowed to mock them but saying I'm the gatekeeper?
Good luck with that.
By the way, I'm still waiting for you to post what you look like.
I mean you're saying that we get to mock people based off of appearance to make the world better. Show yourself. Let us see what you look like. Never know. Maybe the world needs to be made better?
I look like shit, but that guy is going to die if he keeps taking such high doses of steroids. I don't celebrate the life choices of an emaciated heroin addict, and while I might not mock them either, it's understandable we might socially acknowledge that their behaviour is undesirable for a number of reasons. There's no need to eradicate any and all perceived criticism of others' choices, it feels a bit like you're using it as a cudgel or some sort of weaponised purity test.
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"I hope he reads this bro"
Okay, show us your life choices so we can judge you. I mean if it's killing you, we're allowed to mock you after all. Right?
You rely on that rhetorical device a little too much.
In my daily life I expect, receive, and largely accept criticism for any poor decisions. I choose not to broadcast my daily life to the world via social media.
Your behaviour, ironically, comes across as bullying.
And there it is. You believe that it is acceptable to bully someone so long as they publicly show their face and you are not willing to show yours because you are hiding from the same criticism.
I don't have the time or desire to maintain an online presence, nor do I think that's a particularly healthy way to live. It's not the default mode of existence; it's an extremely recent phenomenon. If the cultural norm was to run naked down the street at 5pm with a stick up your arse, would deciding not to join in be "hiding"? Meanwhile, you seem to believe it's acceptable to bully people who don't conform to your ideal of human behaviour. That's fine, just reflect on the consistency of that logic.
Fun story: were all going to die. Unless it's actively killing them, mind your damn buisiness
Judging peoples choices regarding their own body that has nothing to do with anyone else makes the world less shitty.
Got it. Thank you.
You're really going ofter him for being intolerant of your intolerance? Grow up child
Nope. I understand logical fallacies.
For example, you calling me a child is one.
Nope. It's the paradox of tolerance you're upset about.
Fallacies can be either illegitimate arguments or irrelevant points, and are often identified because they lack evidence that supports their claim. You mocking someone about thier appearance is, yup, CHILDISH.
It's really weird how much emotion is in all of these responses but it's really silly when you then claim I am being emotional.
I've made no claims to my moral superiority but you and other have. That is a paradox.
We disagree on something. Calling me childish is a bully tactic.
I am true to myself and that offends people in weird silly ways. It results in them applying their imagined prejudices to me.
These are all logical fallacies and if there is one thing I've learned over the year is that those who deploy them are not worth arguing with and this is such an occurrence.
I knew it would lead here because the internet is predictable because people are predictable.
For example you will now ignore me or responses with an emotional response, dismisal of my position and list of logical facllicies you feel I am using because you aren't interesting in a discussion.
You need me to be a bad person
You're literally just defending why it's ok for you to be a bad person.
All I did was call out people for being bad people. You getting offended and defending why making fun of people is ok is childish. You then getting offended about being called about just proves how immature you are.
Be better
The issue here is still you thinking I'm offended. I'm not. You continue to insist I am and insist you know my motivations.
You and I disagree I what a bad person is. I can accept that. Why can't you?
I posted this knowing it would get called out. Literally just said that. It appears you've having trouble understanding what I am saying.
I think this makes you a bad person. If you disagree then by your own rules that makes you childish. Does this help you see the fallacy of your logic?
You're not offended, you just continuously respond defending someone who would theoretically be offended.
Got it
Your assumptions for my reasons for responding is based on your personal biases. It indicates a lack of curiosity as to who I am as in individual.
The only part of you I know as an individual is that you defend people making fun of other people appearances. No part of me wants to continue finding out who you are.
Go make fun of someone's political or envirmental beliefs and I may support you more. But to defend someone after they go after the way someone else wants thier own body to look? Nah, I'm good
Cool. And yet you keep responding and so what does that say about you? What compels you to continue this demonstration? Do you feel your superior virtue has not be made clear?
It feels like you need to silence me and your method involves intimidating me. What is your justification for this.
Why do draw the line at beliefs? This is all endless curious to me.
I am most curious why your curiosity has this hardline and what makes you feel so extremely justified, so certain. All this allowing you to draw a hard line here of all places.
I expect you won't elaborate but I suspect it is all based on emotion and not logic.
I'm not sure if it was your another that indicated I should fear being body shamed myself and so how much of all this is based on your fear of being body shamed.
I know mine is partly based on not giving a shit if someone wants to make fun of me because I would never give another person that power over me.
It's very simple:
If you are being a jerk or defending someone being a jerk, I will not be, nor do I have to be, nice to you
Good day
That you use being offended to be offensive it is a common emotional response. So I accept the explanation that you are of simple mind in this regard.
You've have choosen to take the intolerance of one small opinion of mine and expanded it to total intolerance of me as a fellow human.
You do you.