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I think the main barrier to entry for Lemmy is having to pick an instance. For a lot of people that is confusing and they've never had to do it before. There are definitely people who would give up because they don't understand what to do.
People always underestimate advertising. That is what I think is actually holding Lemmy back.
With good ads people would learn how to sign up fast. It's not like it is harder than email.
I'm honestly tired of seeing people make the excuse that switching to activitypub is "too hard" because they have to pick a server. It's 2025, is half of the population experiencing an intelligence regress or something
I think you’re underestimating how tech challenged the average user is. It’s likely that your circle and the lemmy community as a whole tends to be more tech savvy which kinda skews it a bit; but it’s a very, very tiny subset of people and not representative of the general population of internet users.
There's a spoon-sized amount of microplastic in our brains, ofc we are
It's crazy how little people understand about technology these days... But it's also like this disinterest in even trying to learn.
Many people I personally know don’t even know how to use a browser, they do everything through apps served to them.
What in the heck happened lol we go from a generation of people building PCs, using DOS, hacking around in Windows and debloating operating systems, to people who can't function unless their phone tells them what to do
Only a tiny slice of the population ever did this. Some still do.
More did learn how to use Windows for their jobs, but that's largely diminished now.
Some? I think there are more people doing such things than ever. It's just that the growth of that community is overshadowed by the normies.
well porn ppl all goto lemmynsfw anyways
I hope they are ready for the influx.
Or yiffit!
First of all, how dare you.
Good point
Yes, and it shouldn't be a user-facing thing to pick an instance. Also identities shouldn't be tied to instances.
NOSTR is not populous enough, its content is mostly waves of repetition from Twitter, Reddit, even Fediverse, but they've done the relays thing right (you use an initial list of relays, then clients exchange lists of relays, simple and not the most efficient way, but still functional enough for Gnutella, BitTorrent etc). Except the concept of a pubkey being an identity is naive. But if your NOSTR identity is not as important as your Facebook profile or phone number, then maybe it's fine to make it a pubkey. They have paid or limited relays too, which store only events from their members. I don't remember how it's done.
It has the stigma of being done by cryptobros for cryptobros, but the technology itself involves no blockchain.
I still don't like NOSTR, they've made some things simpler than acceptable. I like how it shows that the relay model works and even scales.
The usual issue brought up about Nostr isn't the cryptobros, it's the lack of moderation.
NOSTR has NIP's for moderated communities, I don't remember how many clients support that.
"Lemmy has 42k monthly active users
Feel free if you have any questions"
As someone on lemmy who had never had to pick an instance before, it's not that hard. The instances have descriptions similar to subreddits. You just pick one that sounds friendly. The problem is lack of content diversity. I'm still on reddit for niche topics, some of which are actually not that niche.
It was confusing for me.
Day 1 ‐ "What's an instance? Which one is the main one?"
"There is no main one."
"Which one is the biggest?"
"Well, Lemmy.World is the biggest, but you're not supposed to pick..."
"I picked Lemmy.World."
Hello I'm very new. Why not Lemmy.World?
The idea being that reddit is one centralized service, with one "instance" and therefore if Spez says fuck you, you don't have much recoarse.
Whereas on Lemmy, there's many instances. So if the crowd spreads out evenly, no single instance gets too big, and therefore too powerful.
If the instance owner of Lemmy.world tells me to go fuck myself, I can tell him to go fuck themself. I can just go to lemm.ee or sht.jstworks (or however they spell it), or I could even interact with Lemmy from another service entirely. I could go to mbin, or piefed. Actually I have accounts on both that I don't use.
After picking Lemmy.World innitially I tried a few others, but didn't see the need to switch. Mostly I'm looking for a good stable instance that isn't going anywhere. Which Lemmy.World fills those boxes.
But that doesn't mean other people are wrong with what I've said. I appriciate all the people on other instances because choice makes monopolies disappear.
I'm sorry, I misinterpreted you saying "I chose world" as a negative thing.
I'm also on World and I like it a lot!
It was important to me to find a place that was similar enough to reddit to let my transition be easier. I've been on reddit for like 14 years and I just wanted an alternative that is close to what I knew.
I like world a lot, but in general I like the whole idea of the Fediverse.
Well, it's not the instance itself that I'm playing up as a negative. It's my reasoning without hearing any other arguement on the subject before making my decision. Which is pretty much how I made that choice. I wanted the default Lemmy. Well, there is no default. So I picked the biggest because it was the biggest, and therefore the closest thing to a default.
And a lot of people here don't like the fact that was how my decision making process went due to not knowing what a fediverse was. I STILL wouldn't say I'm proficient at using peertube. I "get" it, but I'd still say I'm right back to not knowing which instance to sign up for. Especially since on peertube it matters a lot more.
I'm also still trying to learn all this stuff. I've never even heard of Peertube.
Imagine youtube.....except it's a broken disfunctional mess with no content.
Incredible
For me, it was kbin.social - but kbin and lemmy didn't play well together when I joined (and now it's in its current state). Then I picked lemmy.world - and they went down one day due to the influx of users. Then I picked sh.itjust.works and I've been happy ever since. I'll be staying here until the day I spin up my own instance.
confusion comes from not knowing if youll get all content, most give you all content
Yeah but it will also influence your all feed, which is the main way of finding content when there's no specific community for your interests.
Or sometimes you run into the propaganda instances/users if you pick wrong.
It becomes a hassle and we know normal people don't want to even try.
However, if they become regulars, I think they eventually find communities they’d rather identify with.
For sure, I've always said that for the most part it doesn't really matter. Make an account on anyone of them and if you don't align with that instance in the long run you can just hop to a different one.
People like having long account ages.
Sure, and nothing prevents you from signing up to multiple of them.
But you must understand that there are a potentially infinite number of instances and people have limited time to sign up for them.
So they pick one, or two, or three, that seem okay.
Then one turns out to be ran by a pedophile, so they stop using that one.
Then one turns out to be a front for tankies, so they stop using that one.
Then one turns out to [insert valid criticism of a popular instance], so they are back to account age 0 and searching for a new instance.
In the old Reddit days you'd never lose your account (or have reason to abandon it) unless you were a nazi or pedophile. I had a twelve year old account banned because someone mass reported all of my (porn) posts, many were auto-actioned, and my appeals were all auto-denied.
Replace the word porn with "for literally no reason that a human would see" and your story is my story.
I guess they had to make more room on their servers for bots and morons.
Well, their loss. I was in the top 1% of reddit karma for 2022. Think of how much engagement is being lost by me simply not being there. And engagement is what drives their platforms metrics.
It always seemed fishy that they offered to let me buy the innitial stock options pre-launch, at $30 per share. But at the time I was dealing with cancer, and had $0 income. So I had to decline. A few after the IPO launches I'm suddenly banned by an automod, with all repeals also being done by an auto mod that claims it was a human the reviewed the appeal. It clearly wasn't.
Weird; very similar story to mine.
The auto ban? The stocks? Or the cancer?
.......or all of it?
Ah jeeze I was walking my dog and missed the cancer part. Sorry to hear you had to go through that and I hope it's gone for good.
Everything else though, spot on.
Well now we need to see pictures of your dog! Hopefully you got him some of those dog boots so his feet aren't cold in the snow.
Yeah I get it, my age old account is now abandoned because Reddit decided to fuck up. Guess what instance I hopped to to view Reddit? None, because Reddit is not decentralized.
I guess the equivalent would be creating a new account on reddit.com, as opposed to lemmy.world vs lemmy.ml etc.
Anyway, I obviously agree with your decision or I wouldn't be here. I'm just telling you most people do not feel that way.
I think that's called stockholm syndrome
I'm kidding, because I felt the same when I was new here. Account age and karma are treated like valuable currency over there, glad that's not a thing on lemmy, and for good reason.
Yet.
I did the hop for mastodon but that was mostly because I learned an instance can set a higher character limit and I absolutely hate fucking threads of tweets.
One of us...