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Sublinks Aims to Be a Drop-In Replacement for Lemmy (wedistribute.org)

submitted 9 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Seems like an interesting effort. A developer is building an alternative Java-based backend to Lemmy's Rust-based one, with the goal of building in a handful of different features. The dev is looking at using this compatibility to migrate their instance over to the new platform, while allowing the community to use their apps of choice.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Lemmy had 4 years of development to iron out bugs

Lemmy had 4 years to accrue technical debt and make foot-guns first-class features. A rewrite is probably exactly what it needs.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

And you think that a rewrite would magically solve all those technical debts?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

Magically no, but sometimes a clean slate is easier than a refactor. I'm speaking generally though, I've never looked at Lemmy's code, and I'm not even who you originally replied to.

[+] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I have and if I'm honest I'm probably a little bit too harsh. I think the bigger issue is honestly the priorities of the dev team. There's good reason that this project is focussing on moderation tooling.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (2 children)

What sort of moderation tools are you missing in Lemmy?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Some things that seem hard to argue with:

A mod panel with things like 'add moderator' (maybe this could be attached to the new moderator view?)
Targeted reports (choose who receives it; admin/moderator)
Moderation actions on jerboa
Moderator edits. There's a fine line here and I can understand why you wouldn't want total edit capabilities but it'd be nice to at least be able to do things like mark as nsfw and add content warnings. This sort of feature should also probably target megathreads
Private communities (I know local only communities are in the works but there's a whole mess of other criteria that would be useful)

My own personal wishlist:

Karma requirements
First class wikis
Hashtags (I actually think a super simple stopgap solution here is to just have them link to the appropriate search page)
Flairs

There's some other stuff that I have seen PRs for and I do understand y'all are working hard. I appreciate the work you've done so far and the communities you've helped build. The Internet is undoubtedly a better place for it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

Dessalines is currently working on mod actions for Jerbia. Someone recently made a PR for moderator edits but it seems there was not enough interest and it was closed by the author. Better reports handling would be nice, but if you read the issue its not really clear how this should work. Private communities are on the roadmap for this year.

Karma is intentionally left out of Lemmy because it has many negative effects. Wikis make more sense as a standalone project, in fact Im working on something. Flairs are also potentially on the roadmap. For hashtags I dont really see the benefit as they would serve a very similar purpose to communities.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

The ones on the Sublinks roadmap are interesting, for instance the warning system: https://github.com/orgs/sublinks/projects/1/views/7

Create a way to create a warning system for users. For example, a user gets a warning for posting a broken link multiple times. We don't want to ban them for that. Or a admin gives a user a Warning with a reason. Create a rules system for auto actions like banning for some time or forever. Consider adding types of warnings. This should also track bans from communities for admin-level auto actions. The profile page shows strikes similar to Mastodon for Mods/Admins only and the user that owns the profile. Examples, warnings in each community, and bans. Rules will be applied to counts of warning types or total warnings over time. 3 warnings within a month is a ban for a month, for example.

There was also this list from a few months ago: https://discuss.online/post/12787?scrollToComments=true

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

True a warning system makes sense.