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Europe must take responsibility for its security, Polish FM says after Trump's win
(kyivindependent.com)
this post was submitted on 06 Nov 2024
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He's right. The US can't be relied on for the next four years, at minimum. Hell, parts of the apparatus might be turned against European security.
Please, look after yourselves.
Don't be surprised if Trump pulls the US out of NATO and UN. He hates both of those organizations.
It's not just about the next 4 years, we can't base our defense on a country we can only rely on for 4 years at a time.
There were already problems with Bush Jr. then Trump once, and now Trump again.
You'd have to be insane to believe this is just a one or two off, and things will get back to normal.
Normalcy regarding NATO ended already with Bush.
@Buffalox @PugJesus #natoisdead died today.
I don't think NATO is dead, but NATO allies can't rely on USA, and USA was by far the biggest military force in NATO.
Everything else was mostly built to support American forces, which in case of an article 5 situation is the commander of the NATO forces.
Yeah.
Probably Optimistic :(
I don't think the US has been reliable since 2016 at the latest. And honestly after this... I don't think it ever will be again.
And what Trump is likely to destroy in the coming years will take ages to rebuild, assuming it ever is.
We all hope it will be enough to shock the European governments into cooperating for once, but the odds are really stacked against that, even if some are willing.
I'm hopefully being extremely pessimistic, but if the Rs have their way (and since they'll control all 3 branches of government, they most certainly will have their way), America will be a much different country. There may not be anything to rebuild because America will be exactly the way they want it to be and there won't be any more parties to go against them. The likelihood that America will be an authoritarian government is pretty high.
It shouldn't be rebuilt. Ever. There should never again be a global hegemony.
Team America: World Police was the single most deadly empire in world history, responsible for at least a dozen documented genocides directly and likely funded every major genocide except the Holocaust. The US has never been the good guys. They're Germany if Germany focused on PR.
that's a lot of shit takes for 10d old account
Hasn't been in the last 8 years. At least.
The world can't keep building around a strong USA.