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Huh, well that's a funny way of saying "break the model of web page as document and fuck up the entire web!"
Oh stop it. Are you saying you don't enjoy pressing the "Back" button in your browser, but staying on the same page. Therefore breaking the page so you refresh and lose whatever the fuck you were doing? /s
Yea let's go back to index.php and the 5 second load time for every clicked button
Yeah because documents are limiting and we want to do stuff that executables can do but with a better distribution model.
Shoulda been something more like Java Web Start.
Maybe. But performance, availability, and security killed a number of viable options. Flash was always more ubiquitous than Java on the web but it eventually died too.
Flash was also cancer that ruined web pages.
The reason Java Web Start wasn't, was specifically because once you clicked on the link, it downloaded the app and started it as a real desktop application, with its own window and taskbar entry and whatnot. It didn't rely on being embedded in HTML (I'm specifically not talking about Java applets, BTW -- they sucked too) or manipulating the DOM for its UI; it could use Swing and have the same look and feel as a native application.