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It's not like Israel would be any better.
I mean, on the LGBT+ front, Israel is not going to imprison or murder you just for being queer like other countries would. But they might if you're the wrong shade of brown and call their invisible sky daddy the wrong name, or even just have the wrong political opinions online. Or even if they think you're close enough to any of these things that you're probably enough of a bad person anyways.
But IIRC, Tel Aviv nevertheless has a notably robust queer community, so it's probably still safer to simply exist there as a gay person compared to the 60+ countries where homosexuality is criminalized, or the subset of those where it can actually get you killed.
At any rate, countries/organizations can be bad in different ways, so I don't think it invalidates what OP said, even if it's possible to whatabout other examples that the hivemind would agree with more.
There's just this bizarre Israel apologist stance that isn't founded in reality whatsoever, and it's almost as sinister as the extreme hatred of Jews generally.
I'm perfectly contented to take a non-interventionist stance on pretty much everything in the middle east. You can't protect any group in that region without aligning with fascists.
So did the Palestinians. My ex did a few journalistic pieces on that. Go look up Tanya Habjouqa and the photog work she did on middle east trans people. It's fascinating, beautiful, and sad.
Israel did just specifically blow up Irans prison where they keep trans people
They attacked the HQ of a horrible religious militia which was physically linked to a prison where they held, amongst others, a lot of trans detainees. It´s Iran's regime that´s claiming "oh look at how they´re specifically bombing our precious trans prisoners"
They're both bad dude, but you can't just act like Israel didn't drop a bomb right on the roof of the prison for the specific purpose of killing a bunch of trans people. Their spies are sooooo smart as to know where the HQ of this malita is and when to bomb it, but not smart enough to say "hey drop the bomb 100ft to the left so we don't kill all those prisoners for no reason"
I don´t think Israel is ´infallible´ in it´s bombing, and I don´t think Iran is honest in it´s communication
Here´s an article that gives a pretty factual and nuanced take on the situation
Whatabout aside, in the specific areas of trans rights they are better than most of the places listed by OP, from what I can tell.
"officially" israel is better for LGBT+ people, but the reality is that israeli media is still full of periodic stories of queer folk being the victim of mob violence for being queer. they're still stoning gay people there, even if it's not technically the state that does it.
they just don't try very hard to figure out who the culprits are.
I wish I could say I was surprised.
I don't support Israel either