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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Unfortubately I am locked in to protonmail :/ otherwise I'd love to use it, looks great

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

wait a hot second, do protonmail not support IMAP??

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Why locked? Proton mail does'nt have a protocol?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago

No IMAP/SMTP support with ProtonMail. You have to run their bridge application locally to get that functionality.
IMAP/SMTP does make their encryption at rest impossible, AFAIK similar providers like tuta don't have those either.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 week ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yes. Calendar is even worse. There's no bridge at all. Proton should've used a standard protocol and put their encryption on top of it in a separate layer to make it comlatible with other software

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Proton should've used a standard protocol and put their encryption on top of it in a separate layer to make it comlatible with other software

That's a hacky approach ngl. Security would've left the chat the exact moment they had a thought about doing that in their heads. Proton is a known company. Imo developing their own protocol is a good decision if they can't make the existing one work properly at all.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 1 week ago

Proton sucks.

I had an account, way too many problems. Apps sucked ass.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 week ago (2 children)

There is apparently a way to set up a bridge that will allow you to access it, but that sounds like an awful lot of work. It also requires connecting to a PC running the software, and I would imagine it affects the security of the messaging (which may be the reason to choose proton mail in the first place).

https://proton.me/support/protonmail-bridge-clients-windows-thunderbird

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Thx! That's for desktop. The bridge is alright. There's no major drawback to it afaik. But this is news about android. Thunderbird bought k9mail

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

https://github.com/exander77/proton-bridge-android

There is a way to do it locally on an Android device using Termux.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The bridge just creates imap/smtp servers, so you should be able to add it to thunderbird on Android.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

That's very good to know, thx! But that means I have to run the bridge on my server, open the ports there etc. , right?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Edit: just tried this and it didn't work. Proton bridge only listens on 127.0.0.1 and doesn't accept incoming connections due to security concerns.

If I were in your position, which I am and will probably end up doing this, is vpn into your home network and just connect to the local IP of your bridge server.

WG tunnel on F droid allows for you to auto connect to your wireguard server when you leave your home net, and auto disconnects when you get back on your home net.

Personally, I'm unsure if proton bridge listens for external request or if it only accepts requests from localhost? If that's the case it may be an issue.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm in the same boat - with them for the encrypted email, but it does hold me back from using third party apps on mobile. Hopefully they get an easier way to use third party apps on mobile. Will probably just end up being a mobile bridge app or something

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They have an app though, do you not like it?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's pretty but feature-deficient and not very pleasant to use compared to third party email apps imo

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

This remains my #1 complaint every time they send me a "how are we doing" survey

I check, then reply:

Your email app still doesn't support basic functionality like creating and editing filters, something I had to code for a phone app back in high school

Like, holy shit, the feature exists on desktop why the fuck can't I have it in the app rreeeeeeeeeeeeeee