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Even people raising money to financially help palestinian surviving, makes it stupid to say zero lives were saved. Why did she even donate as she says if noone was saved by this action, does this mean she thinks it was only performative?
She's saying "you tried and partly failed, so better not try if you can't guarantee 100% success" I'm so mad at these types of people. No, you learn from what worked and did not and incorporate those lessons in your future actions.
I think the reason she succumbs to that type of doomerism is spelled out pretty clearly. She even correctly identifies the contradiction at the foundation of all of this: if you want Palestinian suffering to actually end, it means you need Israel to stop existing. The end point of all pro-Palestinian struggle is to abolish Zionism. So, if she does anything more than quietly give some money to a fundraiser, if she accepts the material effects of supporting Palestine, it's equivalent to saying she's part of a movement that wants to get rid of Israel. That wouldn't be nice, it's not an elegant liberal democratic position. So she can't endorse it. In fact, further than not endorsing it, she can't allow herself to believe that it's even possible (or that it would result in anything but disaster). To liberal Zionists like her, a free Palestine can't exist and it must not be allowed to exist.
I think you’re completely right and helping me verbalize what angered me so much there.
I just realized there was another thread about this and @[email protected] said what I just wrote but more elegantly: